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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-29-2009 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Richard, June, Dorothy, Erwin & I took a ride out to Green-Wood Cemetery in Brooklyn, NY. It is a very large and beautiful place.
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History of Green-Wood Cemetery

Founded in 1838 as one of America's first rural cemeteries, the Green-Wood Cemetery soon developed an international reputation for its magnificent beauty and became the fashionable place to be buried. By 1860, Green-Wood was attracting 500,000 visitors a year, rivaling Niagara Falls as the country's greatest tourist attraction. Crowds flocked to Green-Wood to enjoy family outings, carriage rides and sculpture viewing in the finest of first generation American landscapes. Green-Wood's popularity helped inspire the creation of public parks, including New York City's Central and Prospect Parks.

Today Green-Wood is 478 spectacular acres of hills, valleys, glacial ponds and paths, throughout which exists one of the largest outdoor collections of 19th- and 20th-century statuary and mausoleums. Four seasons of beauty from century-and-a-half-old trees offer a peaceful oasis to visitors, as well as its 560,000 permanent residents, including Leonard Bernstein, Boss Tweed, Charles Ebbets, Jean-Michel Basquiat, Louis Comfort Tiffany, Horace Greeley, Civil War generals, baseball legends, politicians, artists, entertainers and inventors.



We went to pay our respects to George W. Shiebler.

JCK 11/21/1894 pg 19


The Father marker is for George.
Name Burial Date Lot Section
GEORGE W. SHIEBLER 1920-09-16 33753 193
HANNAH M. SHIEBLER 1921-11-16 33753 193
RALPH K. SHIEBLER 1912-11-13 33753 193
EDGAR O. SHIEBLER 1917-04-14 33753 193

Also the records show that the following are also buried there but there weren't any markers
Name Burial Date Lot Section
HOWARD ADEE SHIEBLER 1960-02-19 33753 193
RICHARD F. SHIEBLER 1928-06-26 33753 193
VIRGINIA C. SHIEBLER 1917-02-09 33753 193


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iconnumber posted 05-31-2009 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always wondered what the "W" in George W. Shiebler stands for? Any idea?

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Wonderful.

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I love it!

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-31-2009 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do know that Hannah's maiden name was Moore so it is HANNAH MOORE SHIEBLER.

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Here is a link to an article that gives George W Shielber's middle name as Washington:
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New York Easter Egg -White House Exhibit starting April 1, 2004
[susanelise.com/egg%20description.htm - gone from the internet]

On the front of the Easter Egg, Ms. Shiebler inserted a miniature collage created on watercolor paper. The design is reminiscent of an antiqued immigration theme with a classic portrait style, lace and pearls, indicative of how memories were often preserved for posterity. Included is the Statue of Liberty and her famous inscription; “Give me your tired, your poor...” as so many of our ancestors came to America embracing a new life and exemplifying those very words.

The paintings of the children are from two original pastels, both showing some of the cultural and ancestral diversity in the U.S. and especially in NY at the turn of the century.

The small script name of “George Washington -May 22, 1846” is from an original handwritten birth record of Susan's great-great-grandfather, George Washington Shiebler. G.W. Shiebler was a Silversmith whose work is still in demand today a century later. One of his silver daisy patterns is included shown right above his name.
The back of the egg is hand painted in a sepia tone with antique crackled detail. The New York skyline was inspired by a skyline silouhette at sunset seen by the artist during the New York (Northeast) "Blackout of 2003"


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Amazing, thanks so much for this info - and here I thought we will never know.

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You are welcome.

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Anybody know whether his house still stands? Maybe a Park Slope member could post of photo, if so?

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78 Prospect Park West
Brooklyn, New York, NY

Property type: Coop
Number of units: 40
Gross square foot: 41113


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What is the source of this picture? Thanks,

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Brooklyn Daily Eagle

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iconnumber posted 11-20-2009 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah. Not Shiebler's original house. Too bad. Thanks for the photo, though!

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If I'm reading Googlemaps correctly, Shiebler's factory was at 295 St. Mark's Ave and is now a residential coop or condo with loft apartments.

Or I might be confused and that might be the building across the street.

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Aha! I think I WAS wrong, and it's the building across the street.

Scott, if you go back to that link and use the compass rose rotate the viewing angle, you'll see the building that I think is probably the old factory.

The photos taken from St. Mark's Ave were taken at dusk, but if you use the arrows in the street to scoot around the corner on Underhill, the photos are in daylight and brighter.

Also, the shot you're showing here is the 3D version--that's why it has that strange green-and-red blurry shadowing. There's an icon of a little man wearing 3D glasses that you can click to toggle the 3D effect on and off.

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There we go! That looks like it could be Shiebler's factory, doesn't it?

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I wonder where the autograph book is now? And did he start it from the business as a guest book or did he travel and put it together?

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NEW-YORK DAILY TRIBUNE
Sunday. January 18, 1903

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WOULD LIKE TO GET HIS ALBUM BACK. MR. SHIEBLER’S REMARKABLE COLLECTION OF AUTOGRAPHS OF CELEBRITIES.

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    LOST. — An autograph album, containing the names of all the Presidents of the United States since the time of Grant: also those of Generals Sheridan and Lee. Admirals Farragut, Goldgborough and Dewey. of Jay Gould ana Russell Sage. of Henry Irvine and Ellen Terry. Nordica and Sembrich. Li Hung Chang and Wu Ting-fang. Queen Liliuokalani and the Prince of Siam, and of many more people of distinction. If found, please notify the owner. GEORGE W. SHIEBLER. No. 5 Maiden Lane.
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In spite of notices like this, which have been printed in the newspapers and reprinted; in spite of a half dozen detectives who have hunted up and down the town, and a whole day which he spent himself in a personal search. George W. Shiebler. the silversmith, is still grieving over the loss of his autograph album. When Dr. Lorenz was In this city Mr. Shiebler sought to add the name of the surgeon to the rest, and sent the book by one of his clerks to the home of Dr. Virgil P. Gibney, of whom the Austrian was a guest. Dr. Lorenz was Just getting Into a carriage when the messenger arrived to go to the Yale dinner, and in some mysterious way the album disappeared. Whether it was left in the carriage or slipped Into the street, or was snatched up by some vagrant, the owner of the album has been un able to learn. The Shiebler autograph album has had a career that would do credit to a diplomat. It began in a humble way. like many a successful American, and at first made the acquaintance of people whom the great world knows little if anything about. Gradually it made its way Into more exclusive circles, met men and women whom genius or perseverance or birth or wealth had brought into public prominence, until it numbered among its friends Presidents, admirals. generals, statesmen, bankers, artists, musicians and actors whose names are known to permanent or transient fame.

A Sunday school class presented Mr. Shiebler twenty-eight years ago with this album, and on its front page the members wrote their names. At first the book seemed destined to so the way of the ordinary autograph album, to obtain the names of a few relatives and friends, and then fall a victim to moths on the top shelf of some garret closet. Mr. Shiebler numbered among his friends, however, many men of distinction, for he began life as a clerk in the employ of the Western Union in the Capitol at Washington. Although his chief duty then was to count the words of the newspaper correspondents' "copy" and of the private dispatches of members of Congress, and hand them over to the operators, nevertheless he impressed those he met with his genial way.

Mr. Shiebler left Washington in 1562. and the album was given to him In 1815 hen he was living in this city. Thus it was that when a member of Congress or an officer of the army or navy happened to come to town whom he knew Mr. Shiebler would send him the album, with the request for his autograph.

It was not long before all the pages were filled, and then Mr. Shiebler added more pages. As the book grew, the ambition of its owner grew. At last whenever a noted stranger visited the city, or an actor became especially famous, or an artist became talked about because of some painting, Mr. Shiebler was sure to send him his autograph album. The owner never delivered it in person, but would send it in care of a messenger to the hotel where the person happened to be stopping. A^ the volume became more and more valuable his friends often used to chide him for sending it about so carelessly. Some day. they said, he would lose it. And at last the day came.

When the Prince of Siam was here Mr. Shiebler sent him the album. Days went by and no n»ply came. The Prince went to Boston, but the album was not returned. Mr. Shiebler made inquiry at the Waldorf-Astoria, where the Prince had stayed, but was told the album was lost. He then telegraphed to Boston, and the Prince replied that it must be at the hotel, for h" had left it in charge of a certain clerk. Armed with this letter. Mr. Shiebler finally obtained the hook

Many of the names which wore written in Mr. Shiebler's album betray even from a few scratches of the pen. or by their position on the page, the character of those who wrote them. Thus on the last page is the signature of Henry Ward Beecher, under which Sarah Bernhardt wrote the words:

"The last shall be first in the Kingdom of Heaven,"

whereupon she signed her own name at the bottom of the page, so that no one could write beneath it. On the page opposite Mme. Calve wrote, when she was asked to sign her name:

"Oh, Sarah! Sarah! You would always have the last word. "

When Queen Liliuokalani was in Washington seeking to win back her lost throne of the Sandwich Islands Mr. Shiebler chanced to be at the national capital on business. He had his album along, as usual, hoping to meet some new celebrity whose name he had not secured. On this occasion Mr. Shiebler called at the hotel where the Queen was staying, and, after he had told the purpose of his call to the secretary, the latter, after a consultation with the Queen, said:

"Her majesty desires to know If you will grant an audience to her?"

Mr. Shiebler replied that he had not expected such a great honor. The former ruler of the Sandwich Islands, after looking the book through carefully, said that she appreciated the distinction of being enrolled with the illustrious of America. Her secretary Immediately went to the nearest stationery store, and. buying an autograph album, declared that he was going to collect names himself.

Carrie Nation signed her name when In this city on her first visit to the East. Her name at a distance looked like a hatchet, and below she wrote. "Your defender.'"

It was after the appearance of "Manru" on the stage of the Metropolitan Opera House that Paderewski was asked to write his name in the Shiebler album. He took a great interest in the book, and. besides his signature, he wrote four bars of his opera. Among the pages the pianist and composer found the name of Kubelik. who had written alongside his name a few bars from Mozart. The album also contains the name of Josef Hofmann, who, after signing his name, had penned a selection from one of his mazourkas.

Victor Maurel. the French barytone, showed by his autograph that he is an artist as well. He wrote his name with a French sentence, the letters of which he arranged like the spokes of a v heel." In company with Maurel are the names of Sembrich. Schumann-Heink. Nordica and other stars of grand opera. Mme. Nordica kept the album for some time, and Mr Shiebler began to wonder if it might have gone astray, when he learned from the soprano that she had been doing a little missionary work among her friends, and had only obtained some more names for him. Maurice Grau also became greatly Interested In the album, and secured the signatures of several opera singers that the album had never succeeded in reaching before. Mr. Shiebler never had any difficulty in obtaining the signatures of the Presidents. Having secured that of General Grant one time when he was here in the city, he found that the Presidents who succeeded him all gladly accepted the opportunity of adding their names. The names of Wu-Ting-fang and Li Hung Chang were written on the same page. That of the dead Viceroy was written first, and when the album was sent to the former Chinese Minister he selected the page where my fellow countryman had written his signature with the remark:

"I don't want to get lonesome, not even in art autograph album."

Several master engravers and designers in the employ of Mr. Shiebler have decorated many of the pages of the album with color sketches, Including one of a street scene hi Rouen. The book is bound in red morocco leather and, as it is eight by ten inches in breadth and length, with a width of two inches, it makes an imposing volume.

"I think that I will recover the book eventually." said Mr. Shiebler yesterday. "One would not want to keep the book without exhibiting It to his friends, and in this way the Identity of the owner would leak out. Only a vandal would tear it apart and try to sell the pages. It is of far more value to me than to any one else, for its career and my own are more or SMI linked together. The book will come back to mo somehow."


According to the 1920 obituary (above), Howard Shiebler had the Autograph album. I wonder how it was recovered (answer below) and whatever happened to the album (does it still exist)?

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The Jewelers’ Circular and Horological Review
1889
pg 92
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Geo. W. Shiebler has nearly completed and will have ready for rental by May 1st, his new factory on the north-east corner of Underhill and St. Mark’s avenues, in the neighborhood of Prospect Park, Brooklyn. The factory is 64 feet by 85 feet, and five stories high, with basement—very substantially built with the very excellent feature of having the boiler-room, staircase, elevator shaft and plumbing, etc., outside of the walls of the main building—in other words, it is built on the “New England factory construction” plan. There is also fire-proof vaults 7x9 on each floor. Mr. Shiebler will occupy for his own use the basement and second floor. The other floors are for rental and may be subdivided. A Corlies engine of 100 horse power will furnish all the power needed. Mr. Shiebler can be seen at his store, No. 8 Liberty Place, in reference to the renting of floors or parts of floors.


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