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Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 04-09-2015 08:02 PM A package was waiting for me today: IP: Logged
Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 04-09-2015 08:05 PM What's a Mouse Bowl? This is: Master salt, Gorham for Tiffany, c. 1868, anticipating Rob Butler by about 150 years. IP: Logged
asheland Posts: 935 Registered: Nov 2003	posted 04-10-2015 09:50 AM I REALLY like that! That early Gorham can't be beat! IP: Logged
dragonflywink Posts: 993 Registered: Dec 2002	posted 04-10-2015 10:37 AM That's a wonderful piece, Polly! Curious about the size - there is a picture from the Gorham archives in Tompkins' 'Handbook of Gorham Open Salt Dishes'(1987), noting the size as 1" high and an average weight of 2 oz., assuming that one would be an individual salt. ~Cheryl IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 04-10-2015 10:45 AM I like it as well...I hadn't seen this one before. Is it possible to see a closer shot of the marks? I might have a prejudice but I think Robert's has the best personality . Over the years the mouse has appeared on numerous items by Gorham, for example: IP: Logged
dragonflywink Posts: 993 Registered: Dec 2002	posted 04-10-2015 11:38 AM Lost the pictures in a computer crash years ago (should look to see if I have a print-out somewhere), but I once had a Gorham mixed-metal card tray, silver with a prayer wheel and mouse in copper... ~Cheryl IP: Logged
chicagosilver Posts: 227 Registered: Aug 2005	posted 04-10-2015 12:37 PM Super bowl! Okay, this isn't holloware but it's a great Moser mouse pin, from the Tadema archive: IP: Logged
Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 04-10-2015 01:23 PM Thanks, all! Look at all those mice! Scott, I agree--Rob's mice are the best--they have the most personality. Marks: It's about 4 1/2" wide (handle to handle) by about 2 1/2" wide the other way and about 1 1/2" tall, weighs exactly 2 1/3 oz troy. With a pencil for scale: Side view, showing handles: It's monogrammed with initials and 1843-1868 (presumably for a silver anniversary). IP: Logged
Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 04-10-2015 01:32 PM I'm right that the T & Co is for Tiffany's, right? Cheryl, I just got that Gorham salts book myself and saw the listing. This bowl is a tad bigger than the sizes they list there, but not by much (e.g., 2 1/3 troy oz instead of 2, 1 1/2" tall instead of 1). But I still think it's a master salt--it holds a quarter cup (2 oz), which seems like kind of a lot to me. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 04-10-2015 06:30 PM ".... the T & Co is for Tiffany's, right?" I don't know but, in this case, I don't think so. I am sure you will find Internet sites that claim the "T & Co" is a Tiffany mark but I am sure they don't provide scholarly documentation to support this assertion. The date mark (A) indicates 1866. I don't believe Tiffany ever used "T & Co" on holloware/flatware when this item was made. In recent years Tiffany did use the "T & Co" mark but I have only seen it on jewelery items and the "T" usually has serifs. I believe I have heard respected scholars speculate this "T & Co" (sanserif) mark belonged to a small company Gorham acquired. I am not certain about any of the above because as it has been culled from my memory so contradictions and clarification are welcomed. IP: Logged
Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 04-10-2015 07:37 PM Thanks for the clarification, Scott. Gorham not for Tiffany's, then. The T&Co is stamped lightly underneath the Gorham stamps, so that does support your idea--perhaps it was made for/by T&Co and then Gorham marked it themselves after buying the company. IP: Logged
asheland Posts: 935 Registered: Nov 2003	posted 04-10-2015 11:28 PM IP: Logged

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