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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 01-17-2009 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a six inch ladle with the mark of James D. Anderson of Vicksburg, Mississippi. He was in Vicksburg by 1844, but by 1849 had moved to New Orleans. He was in New Orleans until 1853. This ladle has the initials SMAC or LMAC engraved on the front of the handle. I never can tell the difference between the S and the L.

This ladle has a very pronounced drop that I think is a little unusual for a ladle of the late 1840s. All of the other Anderson silver that I have seen is marked with an eagle; a manufacturers' mark referred to by McGrew as the Philadelphia eagle. This ladle just has the basic Anderson mark.

I have never seen Anderson's mark on silver from New Orleans or for that matter any city other than Vicksburg. I wonder if anyone knows what Mr. Anderson did before 1844 or after 1853 or if anyone has seen silver of his from other than Vicksburg.




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iconnumber posted 01-17-2009 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a James D Anderson who is listed in the 1850 U S Federal Census for Representative District 3, Orleans, Louisiana who was born in Pennsylvania in about 1807 and whose occupation is given as watchmaker. He is not listed with any family, only a clerk Henry White who was born in New York in about 1831.

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iconnumber posted 01-17-2009 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is most likely the same Anderson. Crescent City Silver lists Anderson as an importer of watches and jewelry and while in Vicksburg he was in the jewelry business.
Thanks Bascall

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iconnumber posted 01-17-2009 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, that's all I could find so far. Presuming he didn't have a family, he may not have had anybody to write his "sketch."

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iconnumber posted 01-17-2009 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I never can tell the difference between the S and the L.

I can't see it well enough to be sure, but I think it is an S. In the S the lower loop is short, remaining to the left of the stem of the letter, while in the L it has a long "tail" and crosses over to the right.

Regardless of the lack of the eagle stamp, the ladle is of a characteristic Philadelphia form of the period, typical of flatware from the prolific Wilson factory and perhaps others.

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J.D. Anderson advertised in the Vicksburg Sentinel in 1844 that he recommenced the jewelry business there and in 1849 he advertised that he was in New Orleans and that his business was located at 17 St Charles St.

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iconnumber posted 01-17-2009 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is no doubt going nowhere, but there is a James Anderson in the Gazetteer and business directory of Ontario County, N.Y. for 1867-8 dealing in watches and jewelry in the town of Honeoye.

The town boasted that it had mail delivery three times a week.

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iconnumber posted 01-17-2009 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Below is a picture of the left facing Philadelphia eagle. McGrew lists close to fifty retailers that sold silver bearing this manufacturer's mark and that would confirm Swarter's observation that silver bearing this mark was made by a prolific manufacturer.

It is surprising that no one has located a piece of silver with this eagle that also bears the name of the true manufacturer.

I suspect in the case of this Anderson piece the eagle was left off by mistake or as Swarter suggested it was made by another large Philadelphia silversmith.

That would be interesting if Anderson moved to New York after his stay in the south.

Thanks to all for your comments.

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iconnumber posted 01-17-2009 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have long suspected - but have no proof whatsoever - that this eagle mark is the trademark of a manufacturer, but placed only on silver wholesaled to other retailers for resale.

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Another nice Anderson mark this time with eagle. I had hopes that Catherine Hollan would identify the Philadelphia eagle maker, but while she identified many retailers that had the mark on their silver that exact makers is still unidentified.
Her book "Eagle Marks on American Silver" is a wonderful book that explores the many times the eagle has been used by silver manufacturers.

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