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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-10-2016 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tongs, American coin silver, that look to me to be from the 18teens or so, with wide ends with a drop, a wriggle-work cartouche, and a feathered monogram:

Marked DC:


I can't find DC in Belden (unless it's Daniel Bloom Coen, but Belden says his marks include D.C. and D<pellet>C--she doesn't mention just plain DC). Not in WEV's wonderful family-list either.

Anybody know who DC is? Or want to disagree about the age of these tongs?

(Edited to correct "David" to "Daniel.")

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wev
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iconnumber posted 07-10-2016 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We don't know. There is a finless fiddleback spoon (set of three) at Winterthur with this mark and a unique incuse eagle head (at least that is what it is presumed to be).

It was given by Richard Tousey, who believed it to be a unrecorded mark by Coen. Aside from it and now yours, I have only seen it once before, many years ago, on a c 1800 salt spoon that I stupidly did not buy.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-10-2016 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, wev.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-10-2016 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WEV, if Coen was active from c 1787-1805, is this pair of tongs in the right period to be his? I was guessing the teens, but could it be around 1800-05 instead? Or do you think it's too late to be his? Here are a couple of images of the engraved bow (which has a bend in it), in case that helps.


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iconnumber posted 07-10-2016 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1800-1805 would not be amiss. The engraving is not better or worse than pieces with his full mark. That said, I suspect the Toursey attribution is in mostly process of elimination -- D C is not a common set of initials and Coen does fit (barely) the time of the spoons -- rather than anything more substantial. There is also another, and quite different, unknown DC mark in the collection that I am rather sure is Coen's based on the cartouche, letter forms, and spirit (if you will) of the design compared to the full name mark.

But who knows? I have seen too many 'it's-gotta-be's fall to be sure.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 07-10-2016 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another possible DC mark on a pair of sugar tongs from some time ago. This mark could be DG or DC as it is worn and somewhat flattened.
I do like tongs and for some reason ladles. I have a friend in Natchez that also loves ladles and has been trying for years to find some way to display them.
Does anyone display their tongs in a way other than laying them next to a tea pot?

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-11-2016 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, web & ahwt.

My tongs live in a drawer, except when they're serving sugar, ice, olives, chocolates, sandwiches, etc.

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 07-11-2016 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice, Polly!

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-11-2016 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, TJ!

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Roger Nevling

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2016 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roger Nevling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chadwickendcabinets.co.uk and look under the display/museum cases. I first saw these on Graham Hodges website and it is the best way I have ever seen to display tongs, If you have more than one or two ( I have about 300). I used the idea and built two of my own and love how my tongs are displayed now as opposed to in a drawer. This is the first cabinet I built before hanging on the wall with a few tongs in it. Looks very nice filled up.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2016 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Roger for the great idea. I think I see a reflection on the front so there must be glass covering your collection. I will look into that.
I could also see a print on the backboard of the box of something to do with silver tongs, tea or the like.

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Roger Nevling

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2016 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roger Nevling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will post a picture of the finished product and the tongs in it with a better photo with it hanging on the wall. I don't think I have any print on the backboard, maybe it's the labels? This was easy to do bought the display cases at a flea market, drilled the holes for the wood pegs and mounted them, stained the cabinet and there you go. Don't think I have more than about 45$ in each case. by the way, I'm not familiar with the DC mark but the dating for Coen seems appropriate for the style. I will have to peruse my American tongs and see if I have any with that mark. Don't remember right off.

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Roger Nevling

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2016 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roger Nevling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now if I could only find a way to display my tea tongs.

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2016 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a great way to display them!

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Roger Nevling

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Sorry theses are not my best photos but you get the idea of what the case looks like mounted on the wall full of tongs.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-13-2016 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this! Are they chronological?

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ahwt

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You fashioned a great display case and with the number of tongs you have a back print or picture would not even be seen.
Thanks for showing your collection.

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Roger Nevling

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No they are not Polly but I like the idea and I appreciate the kind words.

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