posted 04-26-2011 01:13 PM            

It is sad that it bears no marks. It is 92 gram and 8 cm high and 7 cm diameter.

And this is not I any danger of being scrapped

It is made by hammering the decoration. 3 flowers each occupying 1/3 of the cop. Even without marks it is beautiful - but would anyone guess of age and maybe origin?

or could you identify which flowers used?

posted 04-27-2011 05:26 PM            

The unmarked and one 1739 and the small one is my Århus piece from 1760.

All the have the decoration split in 3 - with 3 pieces engraved.

The floral is supposed to be the oldest. I type - don't think that it actually is the oldest. But we could guess

posted 10-09-2011 08:50 AM            

Made in 1718 in Copenhagen by Johan Fridrich Andersen - also month mark and Guardian mark. Conrad Ludolf - he was also Müncz Wardein - the MW

posted 11-12-2011 01:27 PM            

Style Louiz Seize and made by

From Danish town Næstved - Daniel Ludvig Draminsky born 1768 citizenship 30/8 1798 dead 1834. Could be him.

In 1848 the beaker was given to a "sognerådsformand" a sort of mayor in the small town of Fensmark. His initials on one of the cartoush.

The beaker is made out of 1 piece of silver. Just hammering no other method.

posted 11-12-2011 04:45 PM            

This rococo has been polished and polished again and again to make it shine. Eventually the bottom broke, but has been repaired.

Loved and used

The master

and the repair seen from inside.

a new bottom set inside to keep the original bottom visible and safe.
Master Andreas Krag, Næstved, citizenship 1759-1786

posted 12-21-2011 05:04 PM            

Regarding your question I don't know. But I assume that it is easy, but some with silver experience might be able to elaborate.

But let us take a new one. French 4 cm high and 17 gram.

The silver 950 (rooster with 1) and has a Paris mark (85) (mark in a circle and up side down) and a control mark 1798-1809.

Also 3 - yes 3 - different test scratch.

Blaise-Simon Trotin, silversmith in Paris

a picture for size

posted 01-04-2012 01:12 PM            

I too am enjoying Hose_dk's cups and beakers (more please too H'dk!)

posted 04-12-2012 05:33 PM            

Maker is Martinius Siim master April 20th 1694 dead after 1708.
Scorpion 23rd October - 22nd November

Conrad Ludolf guardian and Muntz-wardein 1679 to 1729.

Year the 3 towers is difficult some points at 1696 other details at 1697 or 1699.

Under bottom several owners have made their initial, but not year.

posted 04-13-2012 05:40 PM            

Old and interesting even with damage.

We buy old things - when they are same age as buyer - oh old. then we buy older 18?? so old mooove backwards. Today my next step backwards will be difficult and expensive. But fun.

Compare this one with the first one here - both floral. First no hallmarks - age who knows? this one very old. = first 1700 ??

posted 06-09-2012 04:31 AM            

Warrendorf in Germany 1765 to 1839 by Johannes Henricus Antonius Josephus Schmids

posted 06-09-2012 01:21 PM            

In German schlangenhautbecker - snake skin beaker.

The barok form is working with 3 pieces in the surface, 3 different pattern, all occupying 1/3 of the beaker. Each of the 3 cartush normally have a floral decoration. And one is dedicated to owners initials.

Around the top you have a blank circle - here you often find owners inscriptions. In this case the beaker has no initials or descriptions - so no clue of age and origin. These beakers are normally 1700-17?? late. I would say that this origin last quarter of century (1775-1799)
1799 because I prefer 1799 to 1800

The pictures I bought it from don't do justice to beaker. It is actually very nice and in excellent condition. You never know when you go to ebay - pictures might improve or oppersite. In my case I had a better piece.

And you are right - with ice. Though I have posted picture where beaker looks larger than actual. It is 7 cm

posted 09-01-2012 08:18 AM            

Master is from the Danish town Næstved approx 60 km from Copenhagen.

Danish standard for marks was marks - 1 town 2. guardian 3. month/tax mark 4. master
But that was only carried out in Copenhagen. No guardian in Næstved så noone to set mark 1 - 2 and 3. Therefore master set own mark 3 times iiS for Joen JoenSen - to tell that it was as good silver as Copenhagen silver.

Joen Joensen was master approx 1700 and died 1756. Most likely my new beaker is around 1710. And we want silver to be pre 1800 - because silver should be old. And silver after 1800 is brand new.

posted 03-09-2013 08:08 AM            

Nice empire decoration on top and buttom. It has hallmarks in 2 places. First at the top.

Marks are set in a row but under the bottom they are as expected - in a square.

Marks are 3 towers 27 for 1827.
F for the guardein Jacob Graae Fabritius 1827-1831
tax mark for month 21/12 to 21/1 December to January 1827. Stenbukken - this mark was first used in 1830 according to Boye - so I can correct him on this. 1827 it was in use.
Last mark PS - we have 2 possible candidates. Most likely Peter Sæbye born 1783 citizenship March 28th 1810 he cancels his citizenship on October 15th 1845.
But also Jean Pierre Stoundre is a possibility. he dies 1826 so I go for Peter Sæbye.