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iconnumber posted 08-23-2001 03:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have five sets of silver that I am trying to identify.

So far I have i.d.ed my Oneida Damask Rose and Kirk Old Maryland Plain.

I have a set that I have located the Rogers, Lunt & Bowlen trademark but have not been able to locate the pattern. The back of each item reads Sterling (Trade Mark) Jan 28 .08. This set has been one of my favorites but do not have a scanner as of yet. The design on it starts about half way up with a triangle w/a peak which crosses and makes two loops. Inside loop has space for engraving and outside loop ends on each side in a scroll & continues up topping the PC with an oval which resembles a daisy. It also have very tiny flowers in between the scrolls at the top. They are really beautiful but I noted that the knives are not marked sterling. The patterns match but the tops are hollow and are marked stainless. I know that without a pic I am asking a lot but I assume there are some avid collectors out there that may have the answer for me.

Also have a set marked Prestigexxxxsilver plate. Does anyone know who the manufacturer of this could be. Found pattern listed but no pictures to pin it down. These have a design on the top which looks like two small fruits w/bunch of grapes under it and small design down the side.

Would really appreciate any info you can give me.

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iconnumber posted 08-23-2001 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like the 1908 pattern could be Monticello

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iconnumber posted 08-23-2001 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, the Lunt pattern is almost certainly Monticello. It is one of their nicer patterns, too! As for the hollow handle knives, I would bet that the handles are sterling, with stainless blades. The STAINLESS mark is on the blades, right? Sterling knife handles are sometimes not marked. If they are, the marks can be hard to find. Try looking around handle just below where the blade starts and see if you don't find a STERLING mark. If that fails, look on the narrow sides up by the blade. You may need a magnifier!

Prestige Plate was a lower-end line from Oneida Silversmiths. The pattern is, I believe, Bordeaux, introduced in 1945. You might also find it with other trademarks, such as Nobility Plate. It is all Oneida, though.


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iconnumber posted 08-26-2001 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sisu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Scott and Brent. Really neat to find experts in a field that one knows very little about. You were so right Brent. Didn't realize that there were so many little clues on silver. It says that the handles are sterling silver.

There is also a set which only has Community on the back of each handle. I noticed that there were not many listed under Community & none had pics available when I was checking for information and assuming that they also may be "low end" as you say. There are 3 lines on the bottom of the handle with straight lines going to design on top - 2 lines - 1 flower w/scroll and heart shape w/flower/scrolls w/leaves. 2 lines and plain top. My thinking is that this is perhaps just stainless.

My late husband had an uncle that was a jeweler and I have numerous pcs that were engraved and go back approx. 100 yrs. One of my favorites is a beautiful knife/w box engraved with initials. I'm thinking it might be a cake knife as it has a slanted point and very ornate engraved blade and lovely handle. Oh - blade is also serated. The only mark I find is on the top of blade near handle which looks like an ostrich T & L straight down under the "bird". There are many more beautiful pcs w/personalized intials & names. Some marks are: R.Wallace 1835A1, 1847RogersBrothersA1 w/round mark I can not make out, RockfordSRCo, Pat.Sept ll'06 Rogers Nickel Silver, 1835RWallaceAl Pat.97. There are many small spoons, baby spoons etc. If I ever get a scanner I would love to send pics to you just to get info on them. The reason I have been trying to get some information on all these things is that I want to let our daughter know what they are so that they don't end up in some rummage sale. LOL She has begun to appreciate the value of antiques and perhaps by you educating me I in turn can do the same for her. Thank you so much for your help!

P.S. Where would be the best place to get the value of any silver that I have?

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iconnumber posted 08-27-2001 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome. The mystery "Community" pattern is indeed silverplate. Community is the top of the Oneida silverplate line. Your pattern sounds like "Coronation", introduced in 1936.

As for your other pieces, the boxed cake saw is very likely sterling or coin silver. Please describe the mark exactly, especially the shape of the marks. The other marks you describe are all found on silverplate only. If you are very interested, use the SEARCH function on the forums to find more information. We have addressed most of these marks before!

I hope this helps!


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