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iconnumber posted 10-02-2003 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brwvabell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi Everyone ..

I was offered a Ruby Glass Vase with Silver Overlay today, at what I think is a good price.

Before I purchase it, I asked the dealer if I could take some photos .. to show in this group.

The pictures aren't great because of my (cheap) Camera but, maybe they will do?

My question: The silver on this vase is THICK and in very good condition.

The detail is outstanding.

With a loupe, I can see that there is a shield, impressed into the silver, with an A in the center.

To the left of the shield, is some lettering which I can't read,(sterling?) and following, to the right of the lettering is .. R-3547.

Below the shield is the number 1000

Does anyone know what all of this means?

I DID find the shield in one of my books and it appears to be Alvin Mfg .. Before Gorham took over.

I can't get close-ups with this camera because the vase is Only 5 inches tall but .. The first picture below is what the shield on the vase, looks like.

Thank You for your time .. and help.

Please forgive me If I have messed up the URLS.


P.S. Oh yes, the asking price is $xxx.00

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iconnumber posted 10-02-2003 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brwvabell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry .. I forgot to mention that the white string that you see around the vase is the price tag.


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iconnumber posted 10-02-2003 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is the mark for Alvin.
The vase looks very nice but it is hard to tell the condition from the photos. It looks as if it is silver on glass. I can't tell what size it is.

Thanks for sharing.

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iconnumber posted 10-02-2003 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brwvabell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You Scott!

The vase is five inches tall and the glass and silver are in "mint" condition.

The camera that I have is terrible at taking closeups, but the engraving in the silver is beautiful and other than where, I think, it says Sterling, shows, very little wear.


BTW .. When we put our urls in, using the [url] tags .. Do 'You' make it where the pictures display or do they display automatically?

I ask because, when I first put the urls on the page and then preview the post, I only see the urls but .. When I come back later in the day and see that a Mod has been here .. The pictures are there!? Just Curious.

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iconnumber posted 10-02-2003 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arg(um)entum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glass/Silver combinations are in my view rather tricky. There exist some convincing examples of a top tier silvershop creating an article that incorporates a piece of quality crystal. To my mind the successful pieces of this type are so because the combining of the two materials had a functional justification. But these are relatively rare instances. The more common ones where a small amount of silver is used to provide an accent on a good piece of crystal leave me with the same reaction as many small patches of engraving: they make me wish they had left the glass alone.

Quite frequently we see silver applied to glass items of rather low quality. That, I suspect, is the manufactuer's way of targeting a price/size range that cannot be reached with silver alone.

It is not possible from the pictures to say anything about the quality of this particular item. So I suggest that In making up your mind whether to buy it or not, you take a good look at the glass and try to judge its quality and also to visualize whether it alone without the silver would appeal to you. Once we own an object and keep looking at it over time, we develop new ways of seeing it. Try doing this before spending your money.

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