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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 12-14-2003 11:44 AM
  
[01-1336] I recently purchased this Gelston mid 19c coin mug (not sure which of the Gelstons did this one). As can be seen, someone drilled a hole in the bottom. Why, why, why would someone do this? Kids wanting to make a wire telephone? Does anyone else have examples? IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 12-14-2003 01:28 PM
How big is the mug? I have seen some very odd things made into lamp bases. . . IP: Logged |
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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 12-14-2003 02:34 PM
It's about 3.75" high and the hole is only about 1/8th". IP: Logged |
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FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 12-14-2003 02:39 PM
Aside from losing the utility of the mug and the obvious loss of the kernel that would help identify that the mug was raised from a single sheet of silver and then have the handle and ring foot applied... I wonder if perhaps they may have even put a plant in it and needed to have a hole for drainage. Folks have done much stranger things. Can we see a full image of the mug? My guess is the mug could be restored with a carefully soldered plug of silver. A kernel could then be struck in the center for authenticity. It would be obvious that it was a restoration and with it restored you could actually drink out of it. I have examples of teaspoons modified to salt spoons. I suppose they were concerned with the worn edge on the original spoon. I keep these spoons as examples of bad decision making. Fred [This message has been edited by FredZ (edited 12-14-2003).] IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 12-14-2003 03:08 PM
I have also seen some pretty nice things screwed to walls and shelves in restuarants as decoration -- early 19th century molding planes, a pristeen Roaring Tiger tobacco can (not a repro), a Chelseaware figurine, etc. An 1/8 inch would be just right for a dry wall screw. IP: Logged |
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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 12-14-2003 04:02 PM
The mug has the following inscription: "from C. Culyer to C. Cuyler Campbell". IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 12-14-2003 04:43 PM
Perhaps the hole was used to mount the cup onto something, such as a block of wood, as many silver trophy cups are. IP: Logged |
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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 12-14-2003 07:28 PM
This thread brings up a pet peeve of mine; the idea that if an object can be obtained cheaply, or even relatively cheaply, that it is fair game for destruction/modification. Such practices have been going on for generations, but they still bug me. There were a number of books from the first half of the 20th C devoted to the "improvement" of antique furniture, which would rightly make any antique lover cringe. I especially loathe the practice of lopping off the feet of an antique dining table to create a "coffee table". On HGTV, the show "Decorating Cents" has a feature where a person shows how to make furnishings out of flea market and garage sale finds. Granted, most of his projects do use things of limited value, like a table base with no top, but other times he shows how to make a tea cup and saucer into a fountain or birdfeeder, or bend forks and spoons into picture holders. People who can't identify a real antique might easily destroy something great by following such advice Most knowledgeable collectors and dealers can recall at least one occasion where a great find was purchased for a pittance at a yard sale or flea market. Just because an item is cheap doesn't mean it isn't worth anything. I hate to think how many things of real value have been destroyed over the years by ignorant refinishers and crafters. Anyway, off the soapbox for now! Brent IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 12-14-2003 07:42 PM
A few years ago one of the new "trends" at local low end flea markets and shops was to take forks and bend them into cuff bracelets. Most often the item used was a Rogers silverplated dinner fork. I saw a few inexpensive sterling forks too. The worst, though, was an 1860s Bigelow & Kennard sardine fork with an engraved fish by the tines. For the $20 asking price, I considered buying it to fix until I noticed that the act of turning it into a bracelet had caused the silver to crack near the tines. Way to go. And it's not a real Vermont flea market unless there are exercise bikes and wind chimes made from flattened dinner forks. [This message has been edited by Paul Lemieux (edited 12-14-2003).] IP: Logged |
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