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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 01-26-2004 01:40 PM [01-1391] A dealer asked us about this piece and whether we knew or could explain the mark. We couldn't. The medallion looks very similar to John Wendt's medallion. It has been hand chased. I said I would post it to see if anyone else had an opinion. IP: Logged
Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 Registered: Apr 2000	posted 01-26-2004 03:26 PM Interesting piece. Are you able to post its dimensions and perhaps a closeup of the handles & engraved decoration flanking the medallion? Also, where on the piece are the markings? I think either the STERLING mark is later-added or the piece is not as old as one would expect (to me, the typeface of the word STERLING does not really seem appropriate for ca 1860s-70s). The medallion is similar to Wendt's in that there are horizontal lines in the background and the medallion is surmounted by a small bead. On the other hand, at least on Wendt's Medallion flatware, the medallions were ovoid rather than circular. The lion passant is intriguing. It is extremely similar to London's lion passant from the 1856 and 1876 date cycles. Also interesting to me is the fact that the medallion is raised. Much medallion hollowware seems to use applied, separately cast or stamped medallions. Scott and June, have you handled the piece in person? If so, is it your feeling that piece is 1860s American medallion hollowware (quality, etc. is appropriate)? [This message has been edited by Paul Lemieux (edited 01-26-2004).] IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 01-26-2004 11:32 PM Paul, We were rushing through the Radisson Show and didn't have time to really study the piece. I attributed the differences in the medallion (the mouth, the angle of the head, etc.) to the fact that it was hand work. There was also a very interesting monogram. I may be able to get a second look at the piece this weekend at the Beach Show. IP: Logged
Brent Posts: 1507 Registered: May 99	posted 01-28-2004 04:53 PM Is the lion stamped multiple times? If so, my guess would be George Sharp. Pieces retailed by Bailey & Co. often have the Bailey trademarks and another separate lion passant stamp, probably put there my the actuall manufacturer. I still think that Sharp supplied some, if not all, of Bailey & Co's silver. At any rate, this may have been a piece made for Bailey that never received the retailer's stamp, leaving it with just a lonely lion. I agree with Paul, the STERLING stamp is a later addition. Brent IP: Logged
Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 Registered: Apr 2000	posted 01-28-2004 04:58 PM I wondered about the Bailey & Co angle too. But I thought their lions were usually in perfectly rectangular reserves. It could be, though, that I have only seen that one variation of the mark. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 01-28-2004 10:58 PM At first we thought of Sharp/Bailey but like Paul we recalled Sharp/Bailey cartouche as being more rectangular. We also felt the "sterling" was an addition. There is only one lion stamp and one "sterling". We will try to get the additional photos this weekend. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 01-30-2004 11:48 PM Below are the requested photos. I tried to find a piece of Wendt's Medallion to compare to this but none was to be found anywhere (in 3/4 of the show - last 1/4 tomorrow). IP: Logged
vathek Posts: 966 Registered: Jun 99	posted 01-31-2004 08:16 AM I wonder if a lot of pieces of coin still in dealer stock when everone switched to the sterling standard where remarked with 'sterling'. The sterling stamp looks much later on this piece, perhaps around 1910 or so. IP: Logged

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