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durginlover unregistered |
posted 02-06-2004 09:17 AM
 
I am a new collector of silver and I have fallen in love with some of the many beautiful older patterns by Durgin. It is impossible to find them without monograms. My question is ...is it better to purchase pieces in these older, rare patterns with monograms or to opt for the pieces that have a mono removal? How will a mono removeal effect the value of the piece? Any and all opinions are welcomed on this one! IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 02-06-2004 09:44 AM
Hello. I, too, enjoy collecting certain old Durgin silver. The company made so many great designs. (What are your favorite patterns?) I don't think it is ever a good idea to get a monogram removal. Monogram removals tend not only to mar the finish and patina of a piece, but also to leave a telltale wavy surface. And since many collectors detest removals, they usually hurt an item's value. I don't mind monograms, since they took great skill to create and are often beautiful in their own right. I doubt many places today could recreate some of the exceptionally intricate monograms produced 100 years ago. My advice would be to avoid any item with a removal, unless it is so rare that you are unlikely to see that piece again in the near future. IP: Logged |
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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 02-07-2004 08:48 AM
Period monograms are a part of the history of the piece, and also say something about the aesthetics of that period. They should be thought of as an integral part of the design IMHO. I have a French sauce tureen which did have a coat of arms erased so the new owner could put their own mono on (probably around 100 years ago), which I would have preferred they not do, but I also accept that as being part of piece's history. [This message has been edited by vathek (edited 02-07-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Arg(um)entum Posts: 304 |
posted 02-07-2004 11:34 AM
I share the attitude that monograms and inscriptions of some age, i.e. those done manually should be preserved particularly if they are well done. But what about: I believe there is room for a range of defensible views on this topic. IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 02-07-2004 01:19 PM
Arg(um)entum has a point that some monograms can be unskilled or ugly (I particularly agree about machine-made ones). I still would hate to get one removed though. It's such an irreversible step. Fortunately I have not encountered very many poorly done monograms (however once I did have a teaspoon meant to be a souvenir of Cincinnati, though it was engraved in unattractive lettering: Cincinateti). [This message has been edited by Paul Lemieux (edited 02-07-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 02-17-2004 03:48 PM
To me, a nicely done monogram does not detract from the value, and often they are so intricate they are almost impossible to tell just what the initial(s) actually is anyway. A removed monogram or a poorly done monogram are damage in my mind and I wouldn't be interested in buying it even at a fraction of the price of a nice one unless I needed that particular piece so desperately that I was willing to live with it as a "place holder" until I could find a nice one. IP: Logged |
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t-man-nc Posts: 327 |
posted 03-12-2004 10:45 AM
Just My Opinion.... Monograms are the history of the proveance and should be left in tact.... Personaly any piece I get with a removed monogram (that I can detect) is a candidate for the melting pot with a few exceptions... A rare maker, A rare form, the only example I have of that maker and only until I can acquire another... will cause me to keep them... From my point of view, Don't remove them, if you want a un-monogramed piece, them buy one, it's most likely cheaper.... "Smaug" IP: Logged |
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