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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 07-18-2007 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[01-2591]

I have had this piece for several years but am unable to attribute to location or maker.

Stylistically it could be just about anyone or anyplace. The marks shown are

  1. bottom of handle
  2. base of body
  3. underside of foot.

Anyone have any ideas/opinions?

Thanks for any help as it is always appreciated.


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DB

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iconnumber posted 07-18-2007 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In form a typical example of a 1780-90 English milk jug, monogram is also right - if a little old-fashioned - for the time.

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iconnumber posted 07-18-2007 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I intended to add another question but forgot. If it is English then the question. Did the English use spinning as a forming technique as the base appears to have been spun? Or do I need new spectacles.

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iconnumber posted 07-18-2007 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This pot has been discussed before, at the end of this longer thread (Early cream pot -- provenance lost). Perhaps its listing in the General Forum will bring more helpful information.
See also this thread (Cream jug) for a discussion of a signed American example similar in style.

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 07-18-2007 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They did use spinning, but not to form the piece--the turning marks you see (and they are there) look like marks from lathe-turning the base to skim off "excess" silver. This was standard practice for brass candlesticks, and it follows that saving a wee bit o' silver would be frugal. But I can't imagine that this piece isn't colonial--if not the American colonies, then the islands or Canada or something...

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DB

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iconnumber posted 07-18-2007 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are three English milk/cream jugs from my collection, the one with the flower motif 1770 by William Cripps, the one with the farmyard scenes is by Thomas Satchwell (typical form for him), London 1780, the plain one 1784 (incuse tax mark) by John Lambe. Also a picture of the undersides which shows the turning marks.


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