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jersey

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iconnumber posted 08-24-2008 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Again!

I was at a local antiques show today & was looking at some lovely silver pieces that had a beautiful shine. The dealer told me that they use Wenol with an orange label from Germany. I was running very late so I had no time to get any further info. Have any of you heard of this brand and/or used it. Most of what I have searched shows it as cleaning all kinds of things including tire wheels.

Any comments would be appreciated. I usually use Wright's myself.

Thank you in advance for your expertise.

Jersey

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 08-24-2008 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stick with Wright's (or something else designed specifically for silver). Wenol is harsh - to be used only in the worst of cases, if at all - it is the lazy person's easy way out. Silver should have a soft, muted sheen derived from the patina formed over the years, not the glaring, steely, mirror-like shine that Wenol produces.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 08-24-2008 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Much too aggressive -- stick with Wright's. If you need to comb your hair, buy a mirror. . . grin

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 08-24-2008 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has taken me a bit to respond as the name weanol, see even trying to type the name correctly causes me problems, produces apoplexy. Why not just melt your silver. Conservators use a mixture of precipitated chaulk in alcohol then rinse with deionized water. For us common folk please use a product such as has mentioned i.e. Wrights polish. No, we do not own stock in Wrights.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 08-25-2008 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

Thank you all for your responses, and so quickly too. It is much appreciated.


Wev, the only mirror I want is the Magic Mirror from Snow White who tells me I'm the fairest of them all!! (Grin back).

Jersey

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Clive E Taylor

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clive E Taylor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have only just noticed this thread.

It gives me hope .

In England I, and a pitiful few others, have been fighting a losing rearguard action against overpolished silver for years.

Even one of the "leading" dealers told me. "My clients want their silver perfectly polished, with that lovely bright shine "

His clients need either education or shooting .

Shooting is quicker, easier and gives a perfect finish. Like aggressive or mechanical cleaning.

Nice to see the tendancy has not totally overwhelmed America yet.

Keep spreading the word.

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think dealers who overpolish are doing themselves a huge disservice. I was at an antique show last year where someone had a number of pieces for sale. But the uniformly overbright finish, including repousse pieces that had been dipped so the 'good' tarnish had been lost, made me just give it all a glance and move on. I didn't feel I could trust the dealer's judgment, and I am in a stage in my collecting career where I'm looking for dealers I can learn from as well as buy from.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Again!

Has anyone tried the sprays, such as Hagerty's? If so, what would it be best for?

Jersey

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there,

First, let me agree that over cleaning silver is a crime. A lot of folks dip silver because it is easy and they are lazy.

Next, let me comment on the Hagertys spray in the blue can.. It is quick and smells like rotten eggs (sulfur), so use it outside. It is expensive.

And, On older silver, Sheffield, and and good electroplate, I use Hagertys "Silver Foam" product because it is mild. Rub on with a cotton cloth, rinse under the tap, dry with paper towels and buff up with an old cotton T-shirt.

The public usually wants bright and shiny when purchasing silver for gifts, so I comply and have the popular pattern flatware, tea services, vases, bowls, goblets, etc., professionally polished before putting them out for sale. The 'good' silver gets hand cleaned or if I am in a hurry, not cleaned at all.

Seaduck, keep looking.. There are a lot of dealers out there who care.

Marc

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Marc!

BTW I had been using Hagerty's Foam, (great for getting in crevices), then I had trouble finding it. Someone then told me about Wright's, & I do like it but I need a lot of elbow grease & repeated polishings for really blackened items. On the plus side, I found that by adding a tiny drop of dishwasher liquid to my pad with the polish, it foams up & makes it easier to go around. Also, before applying the polish I wash the item before with warm water & soap. That it seems, makes the polish spread easier. Any thoughts about this method?

Jersey

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taloncrest

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taloncrest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wrights Silver Cream (the stuff in the tub) polishes more aggressively than Wrights Silver Polish (the stuff in the bottle). I use the cream for heavy tarnish and the polish for light tarnish. I notice that the Society of American Silversmiths recommends a couple of other polishes more highly than Wrights, but Wrights is readily available here.

I do possess a tube of Wenol. I have used it twice; once on a Castle Rose gravy ladle that was badly pitted and appeared to have been polished with toothpaste or something harsher. It improved it's appearance 100%. The second time, I'm ashamed to admit, was on a heavy Mexican sterling dish or ashtray that I found my cat had sprayed. The spray had dried and crystallized, and had probably been that way for a while. Half of the bottom was badly corroded. Wenol did help better than regular silver polish, but it still isn't right.

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there Jersey,

I get my "silver foam" at my local hardware store, or you should be able to get it through the internet.

And I do admit to adding a little plain dish washing liquid (non lemon) to the polish to get rid of the dirt.

Also, I put my just cleaned coin silver flatware into 2" by 10" plastic slips with id so I do not have to clean them more than once.

Marc

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks taloncrest!

I use the cream, didn't know they made a polish in a bottle.

Thanks Marc!

I'll check out my hardware store. Does in come in different forms? BTW Why not the dish washing liquid with lemon, or for that matter any other "scented" type. I usually buy the no scent stuff, it's cheaper.
FYI My mother-in-law loved Fantastic for silver jewelry.

Jersey


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Marc

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again Jersey.

Re the dish soap, Lemon and lime and orange are acids and will discolor the silver.

I found that out the hard way, and had to clean streaks off of already cleaned silver. Not fun.

Marc

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