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vathek

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iconnumber posted 09-08-2009 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've never seen this before - an actual photo transferred to the dust cover of a gold watch case. I'm wondering how this was done and why this technique doesn't appear on silver presentation items, etc. Seems Victorians would have loved this.

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 09-08-2009 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Newark Museum owns a great gold pocket watch with photographs on the dial, AND (added slightly later) on the inside of the gold case. The original owner's parents gave him the watch (Tremont, but in its original Tiffany box) in the 1860s, and had their pictures printed on the white enamel dial. When he married later on, he had (or his wife had) her picture printed on the inside of the front case. Until the watch here, I'd never seen another one. I'll post an image when I get to work.

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FWG

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I've seen at least one spoon with a photo-transfer portrait in the bowl - would've bought it but the condition was very worn, which I imagine would not be unusual as the image seems to be pretty superficial to the surface.

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DB

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iconnumber posted 09-14-2009 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A contemporary Canadian silversmith Anne Barros made a whole series of spoons in the 1990s with photos, called Three Generations, Four Spoons, showing her ancestors.
See article in Silver Magazine November/December 2005 - Anne Barros, Silversmith and Promoter of Canadian Craft.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 09-15-2009 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The technique was originally invented and patented in France by de Marcason in 1854. Since then there have been a number of variations on how to do it. The original technique involved taking a photo on a glass plate with a silver emulsion. Using nasty chemicals, the silver emulsion image is strengthened, then floated off of the glass plate, then laid on the object (either metal or porcelain), and then heated to a high temperature to fuse it to the metal or porcelain.

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 09-15-2009 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the watch in the Newark Museum's collection.

The watch was made by the Tremont Watch Company, but retailed by Tiffany, and still in its original presentation case. The woman on the watch case, Julia Shanley, was the wife of the original owner, who received the watch from his parents, whose pictures are on the dial.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 09-15-2009 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ulysses, do you know whose hair the chain and charms are made of?

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 09-15-2009 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ulysses: thanks for posting the watch pics. The one I have is only a case with no watch and the front cover is missing, but the case is marked Baily Banks & Biddle, which makes me think these must have been high end items at the time.

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 09-15-2009 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The family didn't have the full information, but I can only assume, given the Faith, Hope and Charity charms on the watch chain, that the lady in the picture used her hair to have the watch chain made for her young husband--it's splendid workmanship.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 09-16-2009 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No doubt many hair-work pieces were produced from a certain individual's hair, especially those crafted at home, but much was produced from hair purchased for that purpose and kept in stock at retailers. Here's an 1867 ad from hair jewelry manufacturer Mark Campbell of New York and Chicago:

And an 1867 ad for a retailer assuring customers that, "Orders sent by mail will receive prompt attention, and those sending can confidently rely on no other being substituted.":

~Cheryl

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 09-16-2009 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hairwork is in such good condition that it's hard to believe he wore it much.

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 09-16-2009 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, I am pretty sure that the hair jewelry factories (and I have seen some catalogues as early as the 1850s)did not buy hair for use,rather they acquired hair from individuals wanting it woven/braided or from professional hair weavers or from hobbyist hair weavers...no one would have knowingly (key word) worn hair jewelry that did not have a loved one's hair (living or departed) in it. As beautiful as the best hair jewelry can be, the hair was meaningless without a beloved person attached (so to speak). Odd, I've never seen silver hair jewelry--I guess because you can't polish anything with hair.

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 09-16-2009 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Human hair that was not from an intended donor was repulsive to a jeweler's customer.

However, horse hair which was used some in nineteenth century jewelry was entirely acceptable simply because it was not human.

[This message has been edited by bascall (edited 09-16-2009).]

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 09-17-2009 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No matter whose hair it is I get creeped out by the thought with my modern sensitivities.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 09-17-2009 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ulysses,

I have a hair bracelet with a clasp that I"m pretty sure is vermeil. Do you count that as silver? You wouldn't polish it, though.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 09-17-2009 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I've read that there were scandals about jewelers using the wrong hair in jewelry.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 09-17-2009 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Suspect that hair jewelry became another of the Victorian era crazes for natural material "oddities", surely more desirable if made of the hair of a loved one, but there is clear evidence that quite a bit was produced using purchased hair. Would have to wonder if the thought of using someone else's hair would be all that repulsive, after all, human hair is still the premier material for wigs.

The New American Cyclopedia of 1860 states, concerning imported hair, "Besides its use for the head, it has of late years been employed as a material for delicate articles of jewelry, being plaited into suitable forms for ornamental pins, ear rings, &c.". An 1867 U.S. report on a Paris Exposition notes regarding finished products of the French wholesale hair trade, "All the wigs, plaits, &c., are made by women, as well as the watch-chains, bracelets, and other fancy articles in hair.". Will post a link to Mark Campbell's 1867 book on hair-work (fascinating to those interested in the subject), on page 262 he states, concerning imported hair, "...not a small amount is used in the manufacture of hair jewelry, and other such articles as are worn for ornaments.". The ad posted previously mentions selling at both wholesale and retail, and offering to the furnish the braids separately, without any mention of using hair provided by a customer (though his stores surely offered the option). Self-Instructor in the Art of Hair Work

The memories are becoming a bit fuzzy, but I did some research on hair jewelry for a friend years ago, and if I recall correctly, some of the other information I found included accounts of 18th century Scandinavian girls and women making plaited-hair jewelry to sell at fairs, and of some late 18th century English jewelry makers working in plaited hair. Unable to locate my notes at the moment though.....

Here's notation of an 1853 Silver Medal awarded to Samuel T. Crosby by the Massachusetts Charitable Mechanic Association:

~Cheryl

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 09-20-2009 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always wondered why all of the hair jewelry I've ever seen seems to shade from medium brown to blonde, never black, never white. I've seen grey in mourning pieces that combined the hair of deceased parents, etc. Perhaps hair all fades to one color eventually? Unless it is already faded by age...

It really casts an interesting light on the whole idea that people would by jewelry made of hair simply for its beauty of workmanship rather than its personal association. It seems that we can't assume anything unless we have a family history that accompanies a piece, naming the owner of the hair. I suppose one might want to assume that in the case of the Shanley watch chain, such an intimate thing would come from an intimate source. But, then, why? It is a piece of virtuoso hair braiding, with conventional religious motifs that would have meant the same to any Christian. Why couldn't Mrs. Shanley have purchased this bit of handcraft in the 1880s for her new husband as a token of her love--not a piece of her hair?

This is making me re-think a lot of the hair jewelry I've seen. I know there have been books on it, but I've not read them.

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Polly

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I've seen hair jewelry in a variety of colors, from redhead-orangy-brown to blonde to very dark brown. White is rarer, but I've seen it.

I think you have to consider who would have commissioned the jewelry and how easy or difficult it would be to make from different sorts of hair.

It's true that most hair jewelry I've seen is made of hair in the middle of the brown range. Could that be because most Americans with the money to commission hair jewelry had hair in the middle of the brown range during the period when it was popular? Immigrants from southern Europe might have black hair but less money to spend on hair jewelry (and I've seen very, very dark brown hair jewelry); immigrants from Ireland and Scandinavia might have red or blond hair but (again) less money--and, again, those colors aren't entirely absent. It might be interesting to compare hair jewelry colors to hair colors in contemporary portraits.

Of course, not all the hair jewelry is American. I've seen photos of hair jewelry identified as English and French and Scandinavian in the colors common in those places. Which could just mean that they used locally gathered hair from strangers, of course.

As for gray and white hair, there's no such thing as gray hair. Gray hair is just a mixture of colored hairs and white hairs. So if you take a lock of hair from the head of a gray haired person, you can choose the brown (or red or black or whatever) hairs or the white hairs or a combo. I actually once made a palette-worked hair plaque, a basket of flowers, out of hair from my six best college friends (plus me) for the birthday of one of six friends. Her hair had gone gray by then, but I separated it into white, which I used for some part of the basket, and brown, which I used for one of the flowers. Hairwork requires you to handle the stuff hair by hair, so it's no harder to separate the white from the brown.

Tableworked hair--the woven stuff--requires long locks. I wonder whether the common gifts of tableworked hair marked events that took place earlier in the life of the person with the hair in question. A newly engaged girl giving her fiance a watch chain, for example. Young hair tends to be longer and stronger.

Palette-worked hair jewelry (like the plaque in the hair bracelet discussed here: Help me identify this trade card? ) can be done with much shorter hair. And the pictures come out better with contrasting colors. So if it's all made with one color hair or hair in very close but not identical colors, that suggest to me that the point might be the sentimental value of the hair, not the artistry of the craft.

In the bracelet I linked to above, the braids of hair are all dark brown, but one is slightly lighter than the other two. If they'd been choosing hair by color rather than origin, I think they would have matched it better or made it more contrasting. That makes me think it's probably the hair of people known to the bracelet owner, perhaps family members. Same goes for a pair of tableworked earrings I have--if you look really, really closely you can see they're made of two different colors, with a contrasting colored drop in the middle of each earring, but not contrasting enough to be a smart design choice.

Maybe I'll take some photos of my hairwork pieces later on to show what I mean.

A friend of mine, a Chinese woman who lives in America, recently went home to visit her family and came back with short hair. "Nice haircut," I said. She laughed and told me she'd sold her hair. As she was walking down the street in Beijing someone offered to buy her hair. She decided she wanted a haircut anyway, so she took the hair buyer up on it. (Just an irrelevant anecdote on a lazy Sunday.)

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 09-21-2009 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can not say that I have seen thousands of hair jewelry objects, but I've seen more than a few. My impression is they are all made with really nice looking hair - long, flaxen, silky, and straight. I have no idea what the percentage of women may be who have long, flaxen, silky straight hair, but I am sure it is not a high number especially in the Victorian era when the mild shampoos and vitamin laden conditioners we modern people take for granted to optimize our hair did not exist.

It would make sense that most hair jewelry, like wigs of the era, would have been made from hair purchased from those women who had such beautiful hair. A famous short story comes to mind - O. Henry's "Gift of the Magi" published in 1906 - which includes a woman who sold her hair.

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Polly

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Actually, I suspect people's hair was in BETTER condition back then. They didn't wash it very often, so the natural oils kept it supple. They didn't bleach it or dye it or use hairspray or other styling chemicals that dry it out and make it crack. They often oiled it. Basically, everybody had untreated, "virgin" hair.

Here's one of my hair earrings with two different colors of hair. You can see if you look carefully that the two center drops are slightly lighter than the two flanking them, but not enough to make a dramatic design statement.

On closer inspection, I decided the three braids in the hair bracelet were the same color after all. But here's a better shot of the plaque, showing the different colors:

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I recently saw these two bracelets and I thought that they were kind of unusual and attractive.

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bascall

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Beautiful jewelry! I have no problem with the media at all. The artwork is there. If we think too hard about it though, clothing and such from the hides of all sorts of questionable animals could be just as creepy if not more so.

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Polly

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I don't find it creepy at all. I find it touching.

But I apologize for helping steer this thread way off topic.

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I have two braided hair pieces from an ancestor. They are memorial pins in silver cases with the engraving of his death on th back. He was only 18 years old and drowned, so sad.

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Hair jewelry was also used to remember someone who passed away. A locket of their hair was cut and put into a jewelry piece to be worn. In this case, two pins were made for Edward Dyer Chamberlin who drowned while a Freshman at Brown University during a regatta practice:



Edward 1857:

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Polly

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What beautiful and sad pins. Edward looks so young and promising.

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I just noticed in the 1897 Sears, Roebuck and Co Spring catalog that watch case and dial photographs were available. They were done by a some sort of photographic enamel process.

Fancy Woven Hair Vest Guards and other hair jewelry were to be had as well.

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