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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 08-01-2010 01:19 PM
  
[01-2849] I'm not sure what this little silver-plated thing is for. The writing is German for 'for the fast dance' I believe. Is it a dance ticket for reserving a dance with a specific person? And why the middle eastern coin? It has a tughra mark so it must be Turkish. Opinions solicited. IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 08-01-2010 04:48 PM
My German is horrible, but I thought that 'flotte' meant 'fleet' as in the navy. Does it have a second meaning of 'fast'? The photo is a bit unclear and I can not make out the last letter of the third word. Could you please take a very close look and see what the full third word is and tell us? The Turkish coin (assuming your identification is correct) might mean this odd thing was made in Turkey. The German - Ottoman alliance was created in 1914 and perhaps this was made during those years? Can you date the coin? Are there any markings on the back of the medallion? IP: Logged |
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agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 08-01-2010 05:04 PM
Flott as an adverb or adjective can mean gay in the old-fashioned sense of the word as merry or lively. I make the last word Tanzen, dancing, as opposed to Tanze, a dance. So, "For gay dancing" and I would guess either an entry token for a night club or a token for dances with one of the hostesses. Whether the coin means it was for Germans in Turkey or was just to add a touch of exoticism I couldn't say. IP: Logged |
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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 08-01-2010 05:25 PM
The words read "fur (with umlaut) flottes tanzen". I'm sure the coin is dated but nothing recognizable, but the Ottoman Empire ended in 1922. IP: Logged |
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agphile Posts: 798 |
posted 08-01-2010 05:46 PM
That is how I read it so I think my translation stands. Another, perhaps less likely, explanation might be that this was some sort of prize or souvenir for a dancer. I have visions of a German folk-dancing group touring Turkey in the early 20th century, or a whirling Dervish in Germany even! More fun than thinking of it as the fare for a taxi dancer. IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 08-02-2010 02:00 AM
Mein deusch ist OK Für and Tanzen is the first and last word. I cannot read the second. Try another picture. es is the last of that word. Beginning can be H o/a tt/ss es slasses slosses or h...... so please take another picture. Also closer picture of coin - both sides. IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 08-02-2010 05:11 AM
Vür Flottes Tanzen Can be translated into "For butifull dansing". It is a token given to someone for a performance. Don't know time/place but we could see with more pictures. No marks at all? Forget the Türkish "dancers" they where spinning around until they fell because of exhaustion. Ah just saw that Für Flottes Tanzen was seen a long time ago. Well I contribute in translating. IP: Logged |
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Postnikov Posts: 133 |
posted 08-02-2010 07:59 AM
Hi - "Für flottes Tanzen" (for quick/lively dancing), something like a little trophy/price from a low level dancing event. The coin or whatever it really is was added later, reason unknown - I think just for fun. Regards IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 08-03-2010 11:18 AM
I have consulted a book. Regarding Flotte=fleet i.e. in meaning of a ship The word Flotte has a number of translations.
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vathek Posts: 966 |
posted 08-03-2010 12:23 PM
I have decided that the chain and coin are original, as there is a loop on the token for the chain. I belive it may have been worn by inserting the coin through a vest button slot. Can't post additional pics as I'm out of space on my photo host. IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 08-03-2010 03:41 PM
Piaster is name of coin. But how many Piaster? Piaster is made of gold or silver. Depending upon how many Piaster IP: Logged |
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