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RWS888 Posts: 4 Registered: Mar 2006	posted 11-28-2006 01:19 PM I would like information on the frequency of parcel (partial) gilding on this silverwork. Any and all responses welcomed and appreciated. Thanks. IP: Logged
FWG Posts: 845 Registered: Aug 2005	posted 11-28-2006 03:08 PM I'm afraid that's rather too open a question to get much of an answer -- it really depends on which pieces of Judaica, even beyond questions of age nationality and such. For example, few of the 'spice towers' I've seen have been parcel gilt; none of the (20th century) kiddush cups I've seen have been, although I think some older ones have been; 'torah pointers' seem not uncommonly parcel gilt on the pointer end. It would be easier to give a meaningful answer if the question were more specific. Also, I see that you're a conservator at the Strong; note that I'm relatively local to you (Ithaca), so we could probably meet sometime if that might be helpful. There's also an extremely knowledgeable precious metals person in Endicott, whom you would probably be well advised to get to know if you're doing much work in this area. IP: Logged
Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 Registered: May 99	posted 11-30-2006 01:53 PM I'd recommend Vivian Mann's landmark publication "Crowning Glory" which focuses on Jewish ceremonial silver in The Jewish Museum in NY. Because gold and silver both have symbolic meanings that echo back through the millennia, there may be some intentionality in the presence of lack of parcel-gilding in Judaic silver. IP: Logged
RWS888 Posts: 4 Registered: Mar 2006	posted 11-30-2006 02:02 PM Thank you for this reference. I will do my homework first. Much obliged. RWS quote: Originally posted by Ulysses Dietz: I'd recommend Vivian Mann's landmark publication "Crowning Glory" which focuses on Jewish ceremonial silver in The Jewish Museum in NY. Because gold and silver both have symbolic meanings that echo back through the millennia, there may be some intentionality in the presence of lack of parcel-gilding in Judaic silver. IP: Logged
FWG Posts: 845 Registered: Aug 2005	posted 12-01-2006 02:55 PM Having been in touch with RWS off list, I wanted to update here some of that conversation. I thought that some of the pieces looked to be parcel gilt, and others likely faded lacquer or possibly oil on the surface. I suggested that a soapy wash should take care of any oil without causing problems, but that lacquer posed more of a challenge; possibly a chemical solvent might be used to remove it safely? And then a non-abrasive polish might be used carefully. I also suggested two books: Jay Weinstein's A Collector's Guide to Judaica, 1985, and Abram Kanof's Jewish Ceremonial Art and Religious Observance, 1969, both of which I have and have found very useful. IP: Logged

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