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park1226

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iconnumber posted 10-07-2014 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for park1226     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently found a wonderful set of silver plated demitasse marked Barclay and Cary, New York. I am trying to find our more about this company. Were they a retailer
and/or manufacturer? I have searched and found many examples of plated flat and hollowware being offered for sale on the internet but no specific information about the company, where it was located, how long they were in business etc.. They are not listed in any of my standard silver plates reference books. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 10-08-2014 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not know but I did find one reference in a quick search that places them as being in New York City from 1850 to 1870. They seem to be silver plate makers specializing in hotel ware. For a firm that was around for a relatively short time there seems to be quite a lot of their production being offer in various auctions and sales. Do you have a photo of the nice demitasse set you have? I am sure everyone would enjoy seeing it.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 10-08-2014 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All date from late in 1868:

~Cheryl

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Small clip on a pay site, not fully visible to non-subscribers, shows the New York Times, Feb. 5, 1868, mentioning a co-partnership formed at the old stand at 24 John Street under the name 'Barclay & Cary', principles being 'James H. Barclay' and 'Charles W. Cary'; just above is mention of Brown, Russell & Barclay settling in liquidation.

From 'Schools and Schoolboys of Old Boston' (1894), on Stephen H. Russell, mentioning Brown, Russell & Barclay in business at 24 John Street in New York for two years:

1866 ad:

~Cheryl

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park1226

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Thank you both for your reply. The set consists of 12 silver plate demitasse in a presentation case. They are 5" long and the bowls are gold washed. They are marked on the reverse with a finely incused "Barclay & Cary A1" which is too faint to photograph. The handles are twist and the medallion is very fine. Dragonflywink's research indicates that they were both a manufacturer and retailer. Thanks to both or you again for your responses.

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Kimo

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The A1 marking is a marketing strategy to give the impression that the silver plating is of the best quality, but there is no actual standard for the A1 so it does not really have much practical meaning.

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iconnumber posted 10-10-2014 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though the Brown, Russell & Barclay ad mentions being both manufacturers and dealers, the Barclay & Cary ads say that their goods were "manufactured by ourselves" and "each article warranted by our trade mark", but that may have just been marketing...

Your Medallion pattern is shown in Davis & Deibel as produced by Derby Silver Co., circa 1870s. Didn't put any great effort into it, but found no mention of Barclay & Cary other than those from the 1860s, have to wonder how long they were in business; and if perhaps this was their pattern, with the dies acquired by Derby, which was founded in 1872. Eh, really just idle pondering...

~Cheryl

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