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cbc58

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iconnumber posted 04-27-2018 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some observations from a relatively new collector:

  1. Objects in pictures may appear larger than in real life
  2. No quantity of pictures can replace holding a piece in your hand
  3. There are some serious collectors out there who get what they want
  4. Some "experts" who are supposed to know what they are doing - don't
  5. Some reference books have incorrect information in them
  6. Some makers are over-rated, some under-rated
  7. Hester Bateman got around...
  8. Styles change, but quality craftsmanship never goes out of style
  9. Never pass up a good opportunity to shut up when inquiring about an item
  10. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
  11. I've come to appreciate all the work WEV has put into his list
  12. Teaspoons were much smaller back in the 18th century
  13. Auction houses charge far too much in commissions and shipping
  14. Some experienced collectors will bend over backwards to help you out - others not so much
  15. There is A LOT of silver out there
  16. Actual silver content is generally a tad lower than advertised
  17. I should have started collecting 30 years ago
  18. Some people are emotionally attached to pieces
  19. Fakes and replicas abound
  20. The thrill is in the hunt and acquisition
  21. History and provenance add dimension/value to items
  22. I don't expect ever to be able to know every maker
  23. It is easier to buy basic mainstream pieces than sell them
  24. It is easier to sell rare pieces than buy them
  25. You can spend a considerable sum on reference books / guides
  26. Understanding how a piece was made allows for greater appreciation of the item
  27. Some repairs / damage / modifications are very hard to notice unless you look for them
  28. A good clear hallmark makes a big difference
  29. Items without hallmarks or attribution require some faith
  30. Collecting can get addicting
  31. My wife is going to kill me if I buy any more silver
  32. The skill and labor put into some pieces is amazing
  33. A little bit of knowledge can be dangerous - but also rewarding
  34. The more I learn, the more I learn that I have a lot to learn
  35. ONC makes nice stuff
  36. You know your hooked when you research the cost of anti-tarnish fabric by the yard...

Anyone else have other observations or insight on collecting silver ??

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June Martin
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iconnumber posted 04-27-2018 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for June Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love your observations!

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 04-27-2018 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good fun list with great insight.
Number 17 may be true true for some, but I it is also true that it is never too late to start collecting.

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 04-27-2018 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're a "relatively new" collector, you can take pride in being a fast learner! I love your list.

A few additions:
1. Learn to recognize the glazed-over expression that indicates you've been babbling to someone too long about silver.
2. Treasure collector friends -- they never glaze over!
3. Resist the hints of non collecting friends in possession of tarnished pieces when they learn that you actually enjoy polishing silver.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 04-27-2018 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent list.

37. Pickiness increases as a function of experience and knowledge.

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cbc58

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iconnumber posted 04-28-2018 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Polly:
Excellent list.

37. Pickiness increases as a function of experience and knowledge.


This is very true.

Another one would be: at least 15% of items are misidentified.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 04-28-2018 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That 15% is the reason I'm sometimes able to afford treasures. As long as you get good at identifying things yourself, it can be a good thing for a collector.

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chicagosilver

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iconnumber posted 04-29-2018 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chicagosilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GREAT list. A few more:

38. After doing it for years, you'll look at the first few pieces you ever bought and say "What was I thinking?"
39. The little black spots will never come off.
40. When sellers say "Great Antique Patina" they mean they were too lazy to polish things.
41. Today's younger generation just doesn't appreciate handmade silver as much as they should.
42. A LOT of pieces have had repairs that sellers don't mention or know about.
43. Watching a gleaming piece emerge from two hours of polishing that was black and crusty when you got it is like seeing a beautiful baby be born.
44. It's really shocking that masterful makers such as Oakes and Hale didn't sign all their work.
45. It's also shocking when you read glowing reviews of silversmiths and jewelers in turn of the century magazines but have never seen a single piece of their work, even on line.
46. You know you're in trouble when the boxes you store your silver in are almost too heavy to lift.
47. It's a shame that most early Arts & Crafts metalsmiths never advertised or produced catalogs.
48. It's also a shame that most Arts & Crafts metalsmiths' papers and tools were lost.
49. Shows are great, and there are a few dealers left, but can you imagine collecting silver without the internet?
50. No silver collection is ever complete.

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June Martin
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iconnumber posted 04-29-2018 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for June Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I especially like #43 although I admit that Scott is the expert polisher in our household.

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 04-29-2018 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cbc58, if you are new to this you are a quick study! Great observations, love #7. Here are a few more.

The collecting bug can lay dormant but will never go away.

Collections may start with limits but eventually they will deviate and transform into other areas not anticipated.

It is much easier to collect what no one else does.

[This message has been edited by agleopar (edited 04-29-2018).]

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 04-30-2018 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread! Some real wisdom in here. A lot of great points mentioned. smile

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 04-30-2018 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
39 is sad but true.

So many good observations!

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ringboxlady

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iconnumber posted 07-06-2018 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ringboxlady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this thread!!!

Polishing silver is great therapy.

Finding silver that no one has ever seen or heard of!

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