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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 05-27-2019 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(Warning: this IS NOT a discussion of politics. Please do not let this head in any direction except silver!)

Firstly, I hope all are having a peaceful Memorial Day. To those with active family members thank you to you and them. To those with family who gave all, thank you.

Now, does anyone know anything about the “Presidents Cup” given as a trophy at the recent Sumo championships?
Who made it, how old, what material?

The only thing I found after a quick ineffective search was it weighs 60 lbs (it must have a base).

It looks like old silverplate... just because of the design!

I think the only US company that is making trophy’s like that in sterling is Tiffany. When I visited the Parsnipanny, NJ factory 10-ish years ago 18 silversmiths were making 600 trophies a year. Some were just yearly small versions of the big old one. Some were new.

That was then and I think they might have moved operations to MA/RI and whatever that means...

So my curiosity as to where/when this monster trophy was made?


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June Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-27-2019 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for June Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could it have been made in Japan?

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 05-27-2019 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mrs. Silversmith thought China.

Also I was wrong about the weight!

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 05-27-2019 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
June, I think you called it. Another report says Japan had it made up for Trump.
Also the same report says it does weigh 60 lbs.

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 05-27-2019 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agleopar--
Great minds! Your questions were also the first that came to my mind. I stopped by this forum when the news first broke in case anyone had posted about it, but didn't have time to pose the question myself.

I have also seen reports that it weighs 70 pounds.

I would have thought that the maker would have done their own promotion. I think we can guess that it's not Tiffany, or some other well known maker, as that would almost certainly have figured in a press release that gives detail such as the weight.

Perhaps Scott, or if he's unwilling, Bob Slater as editor of Silver Magazine, could make an inquiry to the White House press office. Inquiring minds want to know! Not to mention the taxpayers who (presumably) paid for it....

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 05-28-2019 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sea Duck, it must be our Massachusetts roots that propelled us in this direction? Ha ha!

Good idea on the press office. My bet is that the Japanese government or Mr. Trump paid for it...

I really wonder if it’s sterling and if we will have to move this to a different forum??

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 05-31-2019 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As there's still no maker (nearly as I've seen) stepping forward to claim authorship of such a significant piece, I'm going to guess that it's plate. Interesting to imagine that the Japanese paid for it, but that kinda makes sense.

All that aside, it's always good to see your name, Agleopar, and I hope that all's well! Maybe at some point we'll actually connect IRL in the North Country.

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