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Brent

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iconnumber posted 01-31-2010 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone could provide an overview of Tiffany jewelry packaging over the years. We all know the "blue box" that is the standard package these days, but I have seen pieces in royal blue boxes as well, as well as green felt wraps. I have a stickpin that came in a brown velour bag with poorly applied gold lettering that looks really fake, but I bought it from a trusted dealer who bought it new in the 1970s for his ex-wife. Did Tiffany use different packaging based on the value of items? Should we be suspicious of items with packing that isn't the "blue box"? Conversely, I belive that a lot of the modern imitation Tiffany items come in fake blue boxes as well.

Can anyone shed some light on this situation?

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 01-31-2010 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brent !
I have some answers but am not on the computer.
Have had massive flood damage today due to a water leak . No silver affected TG!
If no one else answers I'll get back to you.

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2010 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello again!

Thought you might find this of some help.

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Tiffany & Co Jewelry News

  • 1837 Tiffany&Young is established
    On September 1837,Charles Lewis Tiffany and John B. Young establish Tiffany & Young, a stationery and fancy goods emporium at 259 Broadway in New York City. Every article is marked with a non-negotiable selling price, a revolutionary policy that makes headlines. The first day’s sales total $4.98.
  • 1837 The Tiffany Blue Box is introduced
    Soon after Tiffany & Co. was founded in 1837,a distinctive shade of blue was chosen to symbolize the company’s renowned reputation for quality and craftsmanship. The color was adopted for use on Tiffany & Co. boxes, catalogues, shopping bags, brochures, as well as in advertising and other promotional materials. Over time, this lustrous color became so closely identifiled with Tiffany & Co. that it is today universally recognizable as the trademark Tiffany Blue. Glimpsed on a busy street or resting in the palm of a hand, Tiffany Blue boxes and shopping bags evoke images of elegance and exclusivity ,as well as nature’s lush bounty-long the inspiration for Tiffany design. True to the vision of Charles Lewis Tiffany, Tiffany Blue Box was to become an American icon of style and sophistication. As early as 1906 ,the New York Sun reported, (Charles Lewis)Tiffany has one thing in stock that you cannot buy of him for as much money as you may offer ; he will only give it to you. And that is one of his boxes ,the rule of the establishment is ironclad, never to allow a box bearing the name of the firm, to be taken out of the building except with an article which has been sold by them and for which they are responsible. The tradition of the famed Tiffany Blue Box has endured for one essential reason, its contents are unsurpassed in quality and design.
  • 1845 The first Blue Book
    The first Tiffany catalogue is published, a tradition that continues to present day.
  • 1851 The Heritage of Tiffany Silver
    Tiffany silver designs begin to capture the world’s attention. Tiffany becomes the first American company to use the 925/1000 sterling standard, later adopted as the United States Sterling Standard.
  • 1853 Charles Tiffany renames Tiffany &Co.
    Charles Tiffany assumes control of the company ,renamed “Tiffany & Co.”Over the store’s main entrance, a clock is installed, supported by the mythological figure of Atias. This nine-foot, bronze-coated wooden statue was created by H.F Metzier, a carver of ship figureheads.
  • 1861 Tiffany commemorates Abraham Lincoln’s inauguration
    Tiffany is commissioned to design a presentational pitcher for the inauguration of President Abraham Lincoln. The President presents to his wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, a Tiffany seed-pearl jewelry suite.
  • 1862 Tiffany & the Civil War
    Throughout the Civil War, Tiffany supplies the Union Army with swords, flags and surgical implements. Later, Tiffany creates gemstone-encrusted presentation swords for Admiral Farragut and Generals Grant and Sherman.
  • 1867 Tiffany & Co. at the Paris Exposition Universelle
    At the Paris Exposition Universelle, Tiffany & Co. is the first American firm to win an award for the excellence of its silverware.
  • 1871 Tiffany introduces “Audubon”
    Tiffany introduces its sterling silver flatware pattern “Audubon” .Its design was inspired by 19-century Japanese nature painting .It is the Company’s best-selling flatware to this day.
  • 1873 The Boston Museum of Fine Arts acquires a Tiffany pitcher
    The Boston Museum of Fine Arts acquires a copper, silver and niello Tiffany pitcher . This is the first of countless Tiffany designs now in museum collections around the world.
  • 1878 Charles Lewis Tiffany purchases the Tiffany Diamond
    Charles Lewis Tiffany purchases the Tiffany Diamond, one of the world’s largest and finest fancy yellow diamonds. Dr. George Frederick Kunz, the first gemologist to be hired by a jeweler,joins the firm and supervises the cutting of the stone to 128.54 carats with 90 facets. The Tiffany Diamond briefly graced the neck of Audery Hepburn for a round of publicity photographs taken for the film Breakfast at Tiffany’ in 1961.
  • 1885 Tiffany & Co. revises the Great Seal
    Tiffany & Co. revises the Great Seal of the United States of America. The design can still be seen today on the one-dollar bill.
  • 1886 Tiffany Setting
    Tiffany introduces the now famous “Tiffany Setting”. This 6-prong diamond solitaire engagement ring celebrated the world over, maximizes the diamonds beauty by raising it up from the band into the light.
  • 1887 Tiffany called “The King of Diamonds”
    Tiffany acquires some of the French Crown jewels, prompting the press to call Charles Lewis Tiffany “the King of Diamonds”
  • 1902 Louis Comfort Tiffany establishes the “Tiffany Art Jewelry” department
    Louis Comfort Tiffany, son of Charles Lewis Tiffany, establishes the “Tiffany Art Jewelry” department to manufacture his innovative jewelry and enamels. Upom the death of his father, he becomes the firm’s first Artistic Director.
  • 1907 Tiffany gemologist aids in setting gem weight standards
    Tiffany chief gemologist George Kunz is instrumental in the international adoption of the metric carat as a weight standard for gems.
  • 1926 United States government accepts Tiffany standard for platinum
    Tiffany’s standard of purity becomes the official standard platinum in the United States.
  • 1930 American sportsmen embrace the Tiffany style
    The New York Yacht Club commissions an 18-karat-gold trophy cup for Sir Thomas Lipton, tea mogul and yachtsman, who mounted five unsuccessful challenges to regain the American’s Cup for Great Britain. The trophy is engraved “To Sir Thomas Lipton,the gamest loser in the History of Sport”.
  • 1940 Tiffany &Co. moves to Fifth Avenue
    Tiffany moves its headquarters to its current location on Fifth Avenue at 57th Street in New York City .The new building is designed by Cross & Cross.
  • 1950 “Breakfast at Tiffany’s” by Truman Capote is published
    Truman Capote’s best-selling novel, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, is published. His colorful character, Holly Golightly, becomes one of fiction’s celebrated personalities. Paramount released the movie starring Audrey Hepburn in 1961.
  • 1956 Tiffany & Jean Schlumberger
    The Parisian master jewelry designer, Tiffany&Jean Schlumberger , opens his salon at Tiffany & Co.
  • 1963 Tiffany & Co. opens for the White House
    Tiffany & Co. opens a store in San Francisco, the company’s first domestic store outside New York
  • 1967 Tiffany & Co. and the National Football League
    The National Football League awards the first Super Bowl Trophy. An icon of American sports, this Tiffany creation was renamed the Vince Lombardi Super Bowl Trophy in 1970.
  • 1968 Tiffany & Co. designs for the White House
    First Lady Mrs. Lyndon Baines Johnson commissions Tiffany to design a White House china service. The design features ninety American flowers.
  • 1972 Tiffany & Co. opens in Japan
    Tiffany & Co. establishes its presence in Japan with the opening of a Tiffany boutique in the Mitsukoshi Department Store.
  • 1974 Elsa Peretti introduces her design at Tiffany
    The design of Elsa Peretti are introduced at Tiffany. Her exclusive jewelry and home collection distinguished by sinuous, sculptural shapes, cause a sensation. She was named the 1996 Accessories Designer of the Year by the Council of Fashion Designers of America.
  • 1980 Paloma Picasso introduces her designs at Tiffany
    Tiffany & Co. presents the first collection of jewelry designed by Paloma Picasso
  • 1986 Tiffany & Co. opens in London
    Tiffany & Co. opens a store on Old Bond Street in London, initiating the company’s expansion into European markets.
  • 1987 Tiffany & Co. shares traded on the New York Stock Exchange
    Tiffany ,under the direction of a management group led by then chairman William R. Chaney ,offers its stock for trading on the New York Stock Exchange.
  • 1987 Tiffany celebrates 150th Anniversary
    In honor of the 150 th anniversary of the Company’s founding, retrospectives of Tiffany silver and jewelry are held at The American Museum of Natural History and The Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, The Museum of Fine Arts Boston and the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago.
  • 1995 The Louvre Museum in Paris honors Jean Schlumberger
    The Musee des Arts Decoratifs at the Louvre Museum in Paris honors Tiffany designer Jean Schlumberger with a retrospective entitled “A Diamond in the City” . The posthumous tribute marked only the third time a jewelry designer has been so honored by the museum.
  • 1996 Tiffany & Co. opens in Tokyo
    Tiffany & Co. opens a flagship store in Tokyo’s prestigious Ginza district.
  • 1999 Tiffany & Co. introduces Lucida
    114 years after introducing the classic six-prong setting, Tiffany unveils newest engagement ring Lucida. The diamond cut is a patented Tiffany original. The setting is a jewelry’s tour de force, a modern masterpiece and a Tiffany original as well.
  • 2000 Tiffany & Co. Foundation
    The Tiffany & Co. Foundation is established. Through the foundation, the company broadens the scope of its corporate giving efforts with grants to nonprofit organizations dedicated to the education and preservation of the arts and environmental conservation, including the New York Restoration Project, The World Wildlife Fund and the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
    * 2002 Tiffany Mark
    The celebrated Tiffany Mark wristwatch is hailed as the triumphant culmination of Tiffany’s 150-year, legacy in the crafting of fine watches. Based on Tiffany pocketwatch designs of the 19 th century, it is the ultimate classic, in every respect faithful to the fundamentals of the watchmaker’s art.
  • 2003 Tiffany Legacy
    The Tiffany Legacy collection is introduced, featuring diamond engagement rings and wedding bands. Richly inspired by Edwardian designs from the Tiffany archives, the patented cushion-cut center stone is surrounded by exquisitely bead-set diamonds for a look that evokes that glamour of an earlier time .Exclusive to Tiffany &Co.,the collection has grown to include earrings, pendants and bracelets.
  • 2004 Nascar Trophy
    NASCAR commission a trophy design that is hand crafted by Tiffany artisans. It takes more than 135 hours to create the trophy, including spinning silversmithing finishing and polishing .
  • 2005 Tiffany Grand
    Tiffany presents the Tiffany Grand collection of Swiss-made timepieces. Inspired by Tiffany’s rectangular watch designs of the 1930s and ‘40s, the Grand echoes the style and sophistication of Hollywood and Newport during that period. The watches reflect the art moderne, streamlined architecture of the Fifth Avenue flagship store, featuring s six piece case construction and dials with Arabic numerals in a classic typeface. The Tiffany Grand exudes style and sophistication.
  • 2006 Tiffany & Co. introduces the designs of Frank Gehry
    In a collaboration of historic significance, Tiffany & Co. presents the Frank Gehry Collection of jewelry designs. Winner of the prestigious Pritzker Architecture Prize(1989), Frank O. Gehry is arguably the world’s greatest living architect. His masterpieces include The Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao, the Walt Disney Concert Hall, the Nationale-Nederlanden in Parague. He now turns his genius to the most intimate of all the arts: jewelry design. His exquisite creations for Tiffany& Co. are a bold new vision of arresting shapes and forms that reflects Gehry’s lifelong passion.
  • 2007 TiffanyOnsale.com website was built
    We were originally intended to accommodate American customers seeking fashionable goods. We expanded our business enterprise to offer sales worldwide online from 2000. Partnering with esteemed distributors and trading facilitators across the globe - We've expanded our range of products and span of service to meet the needs of all national and international customers.


You also can try a search for the origin of their "flannel bags".

I also have some pieces that came in other colored bags, grey & brown & have no reason to doubt their authenticity, especially since I got them some time ago before faking became rampant.

True too, even the newer bags at the store are not as well done as in earlier years. Case in point: I went to have something cleaned & waited while they did it. When they gave it back to me they said here & we are giving you a new bag for it. When I saw it I said thanks but no thanks! Had I not be at the store I would have thought it was a fake!

Obviously there are fakes. I guess it goes back to trust your seller & your good judgement of quality.

Hope this helps somewhat!

Jersey

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 02-07-2010 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all your help, Jersey! It is good to have more confirmation that they did not always use Tiffany Blue on their packaging, and that some of the bags were not of good quality. It would be nice to know if there was some rhyme or resaon to it, but tiffany seems to control their publicity tightly.

Thanks again,

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iconnumber posted 02-07-2010 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That long quote from the Tiffany "Jewelry News" must be a press release from Tiffany & Co. itself. That information on the Tiffany blue boxes etc is highly suspect from a historical perspective. I cannot recall ever seeing a robin's egg blue package, box or bag from Tiffany's from before World War II. I guess I'm throwing the glove down--because one must always challenge a company's own PR, because myth-building is what they do. There are great researchers on this website and I'm sure they can prove me wrong if I am.

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iconnumber posted 02-07-2010 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "Jewelry News" is not from Tiffany & Co. but rather from a company selling Tiffany (knockoff???) Jewelery. From the Bellevue, Washington Company that posted the "News", (the web page about the posting company):

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About [the posting company name]: our company was established in 1998 as an import and export company offering brand name products at affordable prices. Partnering with esteemed distributors and trading facilitators across the globe - We've expanded our range of products and span of service to meet the needs of all national and international customers.

Our mission is simple: to provide the best products and service to our customers at the lowest prices possible. At percent, [the posting company name] provides the best Tiffany & Co jewelry, including Necklaces, Pendants, Bracelets, Earrings, Rings and Pocket Mirror.


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iconnumber posted 02-07-2010 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also from the [posting company name]:
quote:
    Product FAQ

    1.Are these Tiffany & Co jewellery authentic?

    All of our merchandises are 100% guaranteed brand new. We deal directly through the manufactory worked for Tiffany & Co. The jewelry we offer are all overstock goods/order from the factory.
    They are not covered by Tiffany & Co warranty and not be authorized by Tiffany & Co. That's why we can offer you top quality merchandises at such great discounted prices.
    Please be advised you will not get Official Tiffany & Co. invoice thus NO after-sale service available in your local Tiffany & Co. stores, instead the service will be provided by us. If you are looking for a product with full service from Tiffany & Co, please purchase from the Tiffany & Co. franchised store instead.

    2. Do they come with original Tiffany & Co Packs?

    Yes, all the items will come with original Tiffany & Co gift packs including the blue box, pouch, silver care card and gift bag.

    3. Why are your prices so low but with good quality?

    It is just because we are direct agent.


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iconnumber posted 02-07-2010 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tiffany's famous Green Bag. (Well it's almost blue.)


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iconnumber posted 02-07-2010 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chase33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so how does this company get away with this? I thought Tiffany (and other luxury goods companies) were very diligent about knock-offs but this company's website has a whole range of their products, including the bags, boxes and pouches.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 02-07-2010 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW FYI there is similar info on a matching service website!

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