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SusanT Posts: 104 |
posted 08-17-2007 05:55 PM
  
[26-1479] A gold and bloodstone man's accessory set has come down to me through the family. On examining the pieces have found they were by different manufacturers; therefore, not originally bought as a set. The pieces definitely were manufactured before 1938 and could date as early as 1870. The man that left the pieces to my parents along with his other jewelry died c1940 in his 80s. I'm trying to identify the manufacturer(s) and hopefully more specific date(s). I've exhausted my sources and searching the Internet has exhausted me! Sooo here I am hoping a kind sole may recognize the manufacturing trademarks on the stickpin and cuff links. The fob has no markings. My sources are Rainwater's Enc. of Amer. Silver, Ensko and Kovel. Have rummaged through jewelry marks websites with no luck. It appears jewelry makers are an entity unto themselves. 2 5/8" long. Head consists of an ?" x 3/8" oval bloodstone cabochon framed in gold with a pearl under it. Mark on back of gold frame is an apple or possibly a pear??? with a stem and leaves around the stem. "14" in the top wide part of the apple with an "A" or "4" under it in the narrow part of the apple. Did find on the Chicago Silver website in a listing of 1920s jewelry manufacturers the J.F. Apple Company of Lancaster, PA. The trademark pictured for this company was a ***round*** apple with one leaf hanging from one side of the stem and a large "A" in the middle.  Next to last listed The 2nd item is a set of cuff links: Each link has two ?" x 3/8 oval bloodstone cabochons with gold backs and gold toggle connectors. Marked on the gold backs: "S-N 14 K". Haven't found a mark that resembles this one. These pics, really scans, to not do the bloodstones justice. They are a good dark green with red. Have uploaded an enlarged pictures of the set: TIA. --- Susan IP: Logged |
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2209patrick Posts: 37 |
posted 08-17-2007 07:42 PM
The stickpin mark was used by Alling & Company, Newark, New Jersey. Started out as Alling, Hall & Dodd around 1840. In business until about 1915. The other mark probably belongs to Sansbury & Nellis, Newark, New Jersey. In business at least from 1904 to 1931. IP: Logged |
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SusanT Posts: 104 |
posted 08-18-2007 12:56 AM
Patrick! Patrick! Thank you, very much for the information on the manufacturers. Including the pics of their marks with names and dates is much appreciated. What jewelry source(s) do you recommend? I know Rainwater has a jewelry book, a couple of Warman's jewelry books and a good dozen other books on the subject are out there as well. I thought about getting Rainwater's jewelry book because her silver Ency. of Amer Silver is great. Do you agree on Rainwater and any other suggestions? Thank you again for the great help. --- Susan IP: Logged |
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2209patrick Posts: 37 |
posted 08-18-2007 10:13 AM
Hello Susan. Glad I could help. Jewelry really isn't my area, so I hesitate to recommend a reference book. Pat. IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 08-21-2007 04:22 PM
Well, everybody beat me to it, but the Alling and Sansbury-Nellis info is right on the mark. Dorothy Rainwater's book on Jewelry manufacturers is not flawless, but it is the best thing there is (may she rest in peace!). I am sure that whoever in your family bought these pieces bought them at the same time at the same store. These pieces would have been sold quite anonymously as to makers, through a retail jeweler, and it could have been anyone from Tiffany's in NY to a local jeweler in Nome, Alaska. Newark makers used such obscure little marks because they were exclusively geared to sell wholesale to retail jewelry stores. IP: Logged |
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SusanT Posts: 104 |
posted 08-22-2007 12:24 PM
Thank you both for recommending Rainwater's jewelry book. I've just ordered it. Bought the 3rd edition of Warman's Jewelry a couple of days ago at a local book store. I'm not real pleased with it; but does do well on identifying period pieces. It just doesn't have a listing of marks I really wanted. Many of the pictures do have a a small pic of their marks but almost need a magnifier to see the mark pics. On researching these Newark manufacturers the last few days came across your article, Mr Dietz, "Beaux-arts jewelry made in Newark, New Jersey" on the Find Articles website - very interesting! I really knew nothing about Beaux-arts until I saw Warman's had a section about this style and then I came across your article. Also thank you for the info on how sets of jewelry were sometimes made up by retailers. The man my father inherited this "set" plus a few other pieces of jewelry in c1939 was of Boston. He had retired from his own accounting firm a 20 years before. An interesting note about him was that his family (either his parents or grandparents) had lived next door to Abraham Lincoln in Springfield, IL. He gave my mother a 3 piece set of brass candelabra girandoles that had been in his family home in Springfield saying he knew she would appreciate them. Nowwww, I am definitely ***not*** saying they were Lincoln's; however, the family always got a kick out of saying "Lincoln looked upon them" - like maybe they were blessed. <LOL> --- Susan IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 08-30-2007 03:07 PM
Well if you want the small world syndrome, those girandoles, that came from next-door-to-Lincoln in Springfield, would have been made by my ancestor, Robert E. Dietz, at his factory in New York. Lincoln might well have owned a pair like these (never been to his house, though...) IP: Logged |
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SusanT Posts: 104 |
posted 09-25-2007 08:14 PM
Ohhh! After all this time, I didn't realize there was another reply at the end of this thread until today. [quote][i]>"made by my ancestor, Robert E. Die'?m delighted to know the manufacturer was R.E. Dietz! I didn't know R.E. Dietz, your illustrious ancestor, made girandoles. I'm familiar with his renown lanterns and that he patented the first US kerosene burner c1859. Kerosene lamps are an interest of mine. I lurk over at International Guild of Lamp Researchers website, lampguild.org, where the Question & Answers archives are full of Dietz lamp/lantern info. Thank you for the info! --- Susan IP: Logged |
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Will start with the stickpin:
I happen to have a pic of them at hand soooo guess I will jazz up this post with it.