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M H Bradshaw

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iconnumber posted 09-21-2000 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for M H Bradshaw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was flipping through a Ross-Simons catalog today and saw that Gorham has issued new pieces in Eglantine and Medallion, as well as Bridal Rose and a "Sea Shell bon bon spoon". Specifically, they have listed for sale, an Eglantine Master Butter Knife (7-3/8", $169.95), a Medallion Gravy Ladle with a "hand twisted" handle (7-1/2" $199.95), a Bridal Rose veg. fork (with piercing that looks obviously modern) (7-1/2" $199.95), and a sea shell bonbon spoon that's 4-3/4" and sells for $169.95. Collectors beware! Does anyone know what other pieces are being reissued, or how they're marked?

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wev
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iconnumber posted 09-21-2000 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
gruesome, gruesome one and all.

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smfc75

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iconnumber posted 04-28-2002 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for smfc75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The old Gorham Medallion flatware always has the Gorham trademark (lion, anchor, G) on it. Most pieces also have a "PAT. 1864" mark and a "COIN" or "STERLING" mark. Many pieces also have a retailer's mark.

The new serving pieces rolleyes are marked "GORHAM STERLING" - no trademark or patent mark.

The gravy ladle shown above bears scant resemblance to the old Gorham Medallion pieces. Other new Medallion serving pieces more closely reflect the 1864 design but they certainly weren't made from the original dies. There are many subtle (and not so subtle) differences. I wouldn't classify any of these new pieces as a "reissue".

If in doubt, check the marks.

It would be interesting to know when Gorham stopped making the "old" and when they began making the "new".

[This message has been edited by smfc75 (edited 04-29-2002).]

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t-man-nc

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iconnumber posted 04-29-2002 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t-man-nc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My category of research... The Bridle Rose pattern was orginally produced by Alvin Silver in Sag Harbor NY, when the factory burned Jan 1st 1925, the business whent down hill and was finally sold to Gorham in 1928. Gorham kept the Alvin company in Providence RH, and continued to use the Alvin Logo and simpley operated Alvin like a division until they closed the company. Gorham brought several of the more expensive pieces back in the form of their "Masterpice Collection", which included Old Orange Blossom, Bridle Rose and others under the Gorham Hallmark.

I for one collect the Old Orange Blossom pattern, and feel that the pieces made by the Alvin Company feel different and have the age (Patina) that adds something the newer pieces just don't have.

I have measured weight and size and they are correct but it is just a preference for the older versions of the flatware that I am happy to have.

As for telling the difference, the newer pieces have Gorham on the Back and Not Alvin.

In addition, as you mentioned the piercing is different. I currently have origional drawings of 96 of the 110 diferent pieces made in my pattern OOB, and the piercing patterns are different. I am not sure of the Bridle Rose.

"Smaug"

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 02-26-2008 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew nothing of these new pieces and I thought that this 2000 post would be of interest.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 03-10-2008 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember when this original thread was posted. Thankfully, I have yet to see any of these pieces in person. The "Millennium Series" seems like a fairly grandiose moniker for that paltry assortment. They also could have picked much more interesting and iconic designs, in my opinion. The Medallion ladle looks like an 1860s handle slapped onto the bowl form of a Whiting Lily ladle.

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