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mont

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iconnumber posted 05-23-2002 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mont     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Medallion by Gorham ,flat knives with the Neptune medallion and the dolphin. Since Neptune is God of the Sea are these fish knives or are they dessert knives? The blade is shaped like the old silver plated blades. Thank you for your response. Dorothy
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iconnumber posted 05-23-2002 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for smfc75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune and dolphins were not featured on the medallion in the Gorham Medallion pattern (patented 1864). If you are talking about individual Medallion knives with an engraved Neptune and dolphins, it seems unlikely that they would have been engraved on dessert knives. Also, I don't think that individual fish knives were made in Gorham's Medallion pattern but I could be wrong.

All of which leads me to believe that you have knives of Gorham's Mythologique pattern introduced in 1894. The 1896 Gorham catalogue shows twenty different knives available in the pattern, including four kinds of fish knives (two for place settings) and an individual dessert knife.

In general, fish knives usually had a pointed tip, dessert knives didn't. Hope this helps!

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iconnumber posted 05-28-2002 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mont     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the reply. I talked about the Medallion knives with information supplied to me. I now have them in my hand and I do not see a dolphin on them. Whose portrait is on the Medallion knives? These are the dinner knives. It is a king, but does anyone know which king? Thank you. Dorothy
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smfc75

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Gorham made Medallion pattern knives in several different lengths. The largest sets of these that I've seen were 8 1/4 inches long and the consensus is that these weren't dinner knives (too short).

Gorham also varied the portraits on different pieces within the Medallion pattern so that knives of one length might have a different portrait than knives of some other length. Many of the portraits have been identified, but some haven't.

If you could post a photo of the knife it might be possible to id the portrait.

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smfc75

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iconnumber posted 05-29-2002 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for smfc75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the profile of a king on a Gorham Medallion cake saw. The same profile could have been used on your knives.

I believe the profile is that of Jupiter, the Roman king of the gods. Both Jupiter and Neptune were depicted with a beard and long flowing hair. With no depiction of their normal acoutrements (for example, Neptune with dolphins or Jupiter with lightning bolts) and without any information from Gorham, it's difficult to tell who it was supposed to be. I vote for Jupiter because of the crown.

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The task of trying to post a photo has ended.Thank you for posting the Medallion head and your input. Mine is the same so I think it must be Jupiter. Appreciate. It is wonderful to receive so much knowledge via the Forum. Thank you. Dorothy

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