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KEV

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iconnumber posted 05-11-2004 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KEV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[01-1489, 13-0119]

HI,

Can someone tell me whether or not this is Gorham silver the gm co makes me think it is but the lion anchor are the other way round.

Thanks for the help.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-11-2004 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What makes you think this is Gorham and not English?

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KEV

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iconnumber posted 05-11-2004 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KEV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

You are right sorry for the post, I thought it could be because of the GM Co, and it says sterling silver.

Sorry.

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iconnumber posted 05-11-2004 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are moving this post from the Gorham Forum to the British / Irish Sterling Forum

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 05-12-2004 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, you are both correct! The GMCo. maker's mark is indeed for the Gorham Manufacturing Co., who had/have(?) a factory in Birmingham, England. I believe they also had a plant in France, but I am not certain. Regardless, it is by Gorham, stamped with the correct English hallmarks for Birmingham, 1913-14 it looks like (if the letter is an O), not the Gorham trademark. The STERLING SILVER was added for the benefit of American customers, who might not recognize the hallmarks.

You may want to return this to the Gorham Forum, or at least a link:-).

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-12-2004 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As per your suggestion:

We are moving this post from the British / Irish Sterling Forum to the American Sterling Silver Forum

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KEV

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iconnumber posted 05-12-2004 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KEV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So the marks don't always have to be lion anchor G, for it it be Gorham silver, also I checked out the O for a date letter, and I get either 1913 for small O but 1938 for a large O would u say its definitely a small O.

Thanks for the help.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 05-12-2004 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have seen some Gorham silver that was imported into Britain having the GM Co mark you show, or a similar one. However the anchor mark on your spoon is not an importation mark. If you could post a photo of the entire piece, it would really help us figure out if the piece is Gorham.

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KEV

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iconnumber posted 05-13-2004 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KEV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi does this pic help, I'll try to get one of the front later. thanks again for the help.


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KEV

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iconnumber posted 05-14-2004 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KEV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Picture of the front, which pattern would it. thanks

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-14-2004 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You pattern one of the various patterns called "Kings". I'm not exactly sure which one of the many very similarly designed "Kings" patterns. Anyone else care to suggest which "Kings" and a date of introduction?

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 05-14-2004 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not recognize this as Kings I, II, or III by Gorham. Perhaps it is somebody else after all.

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KEV

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iconnumber posted 05-15-2004 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KEV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, thanks very much for you time and help, most appreciated.

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nautilusjv

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iconnumber posted 10-31-2009 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nautilusjv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just thought I would add on to this post. I recently purchased a pair of napkin rings hallmarked Birmingham 1919. The maker's mark is like the Kings spoon G.M.Co. for Gorham. Unfortunately, I could not get an image of the marks as they are too small.

Does anyone know the history of Gorham in Birmingham?

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iconnumber posted 10-31-2009 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agphile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have reference books specifically for Birmingham. Fallon's London marks 1837-97 says that Gorham had set up a factory at Barr Street Birmingham by 1910 which continued to operate until circa 1914. Your later date letter may mean that the factory actually kept going longer or that Gorham sub-contracted the making but still acted as the sponsor for assay.

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