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Polly

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iconnumber posted 06-14-2005 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just bought nine adorable Shiebler demitasse spoons, six different patterns and three duplicates. I've seen pictures of the same spoons in 12 different patterns, so I know I'm missing six. I guess that gives me something to hunt for, right?

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Does anyone know what this (multi-pattern) pattern is called?

Also, the winged-S mark is slightly different on three of my spoons. On six of them, the wings are sort of lined up straight, while on the three duplicates they tilt down a bit. Is one mark later? Which one?

And is there anything else anybody can tell me about these sweet spoons? The woman who sold them to me said they were from the 1880s--is that right? Are they common--will I have an easy time finding the other six?

Thanks in advance!
Polly

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 06-14-2005 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polly,

Replacement companies are a good way to match your silver patterns. I did some checking. Both hallmarks were used by Shiebler, but my source does not indicate any particular period for each. The third spoon is close but not an exact match to their late 19th century rococo pattern. I had no luck with the others, but I am wondering if they might not be art nouveau, which would be later than your seller indicated.

Good luck,
Tom

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 06-14-2005 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BOS # = SO161, SO161b, SO161c, SO161d, SO161f, SO161k

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 06-14-2005 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Tom & Scott. So am I wrong in thinking that these spoons were meant to be a set--that the various patterns are part of one multi-motif pattern?

Scott, your response is a little cryptic for this newbie. Are those pattern numbers from a reference book? I apologise for my ignorance.

I wonder what the patterns are supposed to represent, if anything. Waves? Plants? Shells? Dr. Seus characters? (Just kidding, but don't SO161 and SO161b look a little Dr. Seus-y? How prescient of Shiebler.)

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 06-15-2005 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are 12 different motifs in this set. Sometimes they are confused with Shiebler’s “Vienna Coffees” which are a different set of 12.

In SO161 I have seen citrus spoons, demitasse spoons, fruit spoons, nut picks, paper slice, parfait spoons.

In our book, we have given a unique Standard Identification Number (SIN) to each pattern. This has proven very helpful when pattern names are unknown or have a “popular name” or are reintroduced to the market with a different name, etc. The SIN for the pattern in your photo is SO161. BOS is short for The Book of Silver; Flatware Silver Marks & Patterns.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 06-15-2005 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, now I get it! Thanks.

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