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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 05-17-2005 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The Shiebler forum always seems to have about the smallest number of new posts, in spite of the company's wonderful oeuvre.

Perhaps we can generate discussion by posting images here of some of our favorite and most unusual Shiebler objects.

Does anybody want to start?

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-19-2005 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This doesn't really qualify as a most interesting piece but it does have a Shiebler mark I don't see that often. Sterling contoured to fit the Shiebler wings.

I have seen some interesting items. For example a traveling sterling coffee/tea maker by Shiebler. I think I know who purchased it. If I can get them to retrieve it from deep storage, I'll take a photo.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 05-19-2005 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Scott!

A magnificent fork, (I love unusual pieces).

Paul, Glad you brought it up to ask that pieces be viewed by the forum.

I don't know why Shiebler may be overlooked by the "everyday" collector, maybe because it is not a "household" name like others. I recall having some pieces early on & had no clue about the quality of their work. Obviously not savvy at that point in time. Gorham, Tiffany, Storr, Revere (I'd die for one of his examples, wouldn't we all), etc. the most recognizable names yes, Shiebler no.To the serious collector it is a name to be dealt with.Sorry to say my pieces (though simple examples) are long gone.
Please show us more, maybe it will help in us appreciating it even more.

Thanks for sharing!
Jersey

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William Hood

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iconnumber posted 05-20-2005 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scott:

What is the length of your fork, and for what was it intended?

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-20-2005 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was at someone's home for diner and they thought I might be interested. I shot a quick photo because I didn't recall the particular Sterling contoured to fit the Shiebler wings mark. I didn't think to measure it.

When I got back to the office I checked our inventory and found I have two. Yesterday, I had another reason to go to deep storage so I retrieved these also. They measure 4.5 inches. My recollection is that the one I photographed was slightly larger. I have seen these sold in boxed sets of 6.

BTW, one of mine with the same design as above had the same contoured mark. The other just had the wings with a backwards S. It is a multi-motif pattern. "A" seems to identify the variation since the other is marked "B". I don�t know what the intended use was. I would think they would make excellent butter picks. I have heard them described as fancy strawberry forks.


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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 05-20-2005 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the forks would make good butter picks. The Gorham catalogs illustrate a few butter forks with a similar shape. However, I can't remember if they were about the same size. I think the decorative, scrolled projections on the Shiebler fork tines are probably functional barbs, so they are probably not strawberry forks.

One of my favorite Shiebler items is this pocket/pendant watch case, which no longer has the crystal or movement. Oddly, it is unsigned by Shiebler, but the applied decoration is the giveaway. All four of the elements (beetle, moth, fish, and leaves) have turned up on signed Shiebler items like buckles and pins. The beetle, moth, and fish are solid gold. The rest is sterling. The interior of the watch is inscribed "Josephine, Dec. 25th 1888".

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 05-24-2005 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Again Paul!

Re your forks:

I agree the style is very much like a couple of Gorham's patterns. One in particular that I know of is Saxony made in silverplate. I also think they could be pickle or lemon forks, as those were the only type of forks I could find based on the size you gave.

BTW The mixed metal watch is really a gem!

Jersey

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 10-25-2005 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't believe this forum has been quiet for almost a quarter of a year! Shiebler did some truly outstanding work and... Anyway, here is an example of one of their more unusual pieces. It is a figural sugar beet or turnip bowl. (I'm botanically challenged. Would somebody please let me know which?) It has a center tap root going into the base and it is surrounded by four stalks with leaves. It measures about 7 1/2" high and parts of the finish are reminiscent of some of the Gorham ice bowls from the 1870s. I believe that this is a fairly early piece of Shiebler. Has anybody ever seen a similar piece and what was its function?






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jersey

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iconnumber posted 10-25-2005 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Richard!

I believe it is a covered sugar bowl in the form of a sugar beet. Check it out by doing a search using those terms.

Hope this helps!

Have a super day.
Jersey

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hello

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iconnumber posted 10-25-2005 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hello     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Impressive bowl! I have not come across that style mark by shiebler as of yet(in my somewhat short time in the hobby) so I think your feeling that it is early may be correct. As of to the fact a quarter of a year, shiebler had a much smaller manufactory than many other firms, (which I assume you already knew), and most people have simply never heard of them(in my experience with silver/antique dealers in Canada anyway). Although I must agree, shiebler seems too have a higher average of items made that are outside the ordinary or at least limited in production. Hopefully this will spark some new posts!(As my pieces of shiebler are not worth displaying here)

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 11-15-2005 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys,

I figured that it was one of the most unusual pieces I have seen by George Shiebler, so I thought I would post it. It is 3 dimensional and is as cool a sardine fork as ever was.

Marked with the Shiebler winged "S" and sterling and a pattern # "2551".

Enjoy..

Marc


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Marc

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iconnumber posted 11-15-2005 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a closeup of the fish swimming through the seaweed

Marc

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 12-02-2005 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See the interesting Copper by Shiebler

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 12-04-2005 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awhile ago, I received a catalog for an auction by Heritage Galleries. The most fascinating part (to me) was the incredible variety of Shiebler pins in that auction, perhaps all coming from one collection.

There were, of course, some curio medallion pieces and Aesthetic Movt. designs I had seen before, but there were also many whimsical and wonderful motifs that were totally new to me.

The catalog is not handy right now, but one of the pins I remember depicted a frog climbing up a stone wall. Does anybody have any Shiebler jewelry with other unusual imagery?

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 01-30-2006 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is an atypical example of Shiebler. It is a footed bowl decorated with repousse chasing depicting flowers and insects. This is an unusual combination of subject matter and technique which is not often seen. The mark would seem to indicate that this is a fairly early (late 1870s, early 1880s?)piece. The quality and crispness of the chasing is excellent.






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vathek

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iconnumber posted 02-26-2006 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sadly I only have one piece of Schiebler but here it is.

This little box measures 1.75" across and has the winged s, sterling, 1120 marked on the lip of the bottom. The ring on it makes me wonder if it was part of a chatelaine.

Inscribed on the inside is the name Mabel Rogers Ingersoll. Found that name listed as died NY 1933 and a Daughter of the American Revolution.

One reason for fewer Schiebler posts is that I find it much harder to come by than other manufacturers.

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Paul Lemieux

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Here is a Shiebler watch fob, made around 1905 or so in the Art Nouveau style. Truthfully, I find the Art Nouveau scrolling design to be fairly mediocre, it strikes me as being clumsy or unrefined in some way. The interesting part is the enameled Sperry & Hutchinson green stamp. I'm guessing that this was some sort of award or presentation piece for a Sperry & Hutchinson VIP.

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