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frosty

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2005 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frosty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a sterling piece that is about 4" tall very ornate victorian design.the bottom flares out and it goes up to a cylinder form hollow right thru. is it some sort of holder?
as for the mark it is a wreath with what looks like a sword going up thru it with the "hilt" at the base.

any help would be much appreciated!thanks

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mdhavey

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2005 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mdhavey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The wreath with the sword mark was used by Watson Co., silversmiths from Attleboro, MA. This mark was used from 1905 - 1929. We'd need to see a picture of the item to be able to guess what its intended use was.

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2005 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For this one a picture is imperative. How do you know it is sterling? What you describe seems to be a maker's mark and does not alone indicate whether the piece is silver or silver plate. Are there other marks?

Tom

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mdhavey

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2005 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mdhavey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom makes a good point. American silver for about the past 100 years or so always says "STERLING" somewhere on the piece. If older than, say, 1870s you have to look for other clues in the marks.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2005 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did Watson ever make silverplate? I am not aware of ever seeing any, but I could be wrong. My inclination is to regard the Watson mark alone as proof of sterling. But that's just me.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2005 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The laurel wreath and sword mark was used by Wilcox & Wagoner (NY, NY) from the late 1880s until they were acquired by Watson 1904-05. Don't believe I've ever seen anything other than sterling by Watson, and they've always been marked as such.

Cheryl ;o)

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frosty

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2005 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frosty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the piece is marked sterling

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frosty

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2005 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frosty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know a photo would help alot but,if this mark is by any of these companys does it make the piece desirable? are these well known companys?

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Dale

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Pieces are desirable or not depending on what they are. Maker driven desirability tends to be associated with very early silver: pre-revolution, Southern pre-Civil War. Beyond that there are high level makers who made bunches of stuff nobody really wants. And low level ones who made a few really desirable things and a lot of ordinary stuff. Deciding which is which is sort of difficult until we know just what we are looking at. My impression is that Watson by itself is not really very desirable; depends on the piece.

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