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Southern Honeybee
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iconnumber posted 06-20-2002 12:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently managed to get my hands on a Tiffany teapot and coffee pot. They are very plain. The stamps on the bottom say "Tiffany & Co Makers Sterling Silver 18389 M" They both say that the only difference is the coffee pot says 2 1/2 pints and the teapot says 2 pints. I have a couple of photos I took with one of those round little webcam things if anyone would like to see.

Anyway, I have no idea what this pattern is. I really like them and am considering adding to them. Or maybe sell them one day. Either way, the pattern would be helpful. Thank you so very much!

Chandra

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William Hood

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iconnumber posted 06-29-2002 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Due to technical problems, I have been unable to respond until now. The M mark indicates your set was made between 1869 (or 1876) and 1891, but the numbers otherwise do not help us in identifying the pattern. If you send us an image, we might be able to recognize it.

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iconnumber posted 11-15-2002 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your pieces were designed ca. 1912 (hence made in Tiffany's Newark, NJ factory).
"Very plain" is hard to imagine. Colonial revival? Tiffany had hundreds of silversmiths in its Newark factory, and they produced tons of silver. Rarely did their holloware ever have a pattern name like their flatware, but sometimes it was coordinated. Is it a small 'm'? In any case, they weren't always consistent, but this would be for the period your set was designed in.

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iconnumber posted 11-22-2002 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to correct my prevous reply. From the information supplied by Southern Honeybee, I concluded the "date letter" was a capital M; hence my comment about the piece being no later than 1891. I failed to take into account the pattern number, which Ulysses correctly points out corresponds to a date of 1912-1913 (See Carpenter and Carpenter, Tiffany Silver, 1978, p. 261 (or rev. ed. 1997, p. 225). Therefore, the "date letter" must be the splayed small m sans serif (see Tiffany Silver, 1978, pp. 258-259/ 1997, p. 223).

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