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luv2sew1

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iconnumber posted 12-07-2004 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luv2sew1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a tiffany thimble and box that I would like to date and find maker for tiffany. The marks are too tiny to see. The box is green and says Tiffany, 5th Av. NY. I would appreciate any information. Thank You in advance. cyndie

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William Hood

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iconnumber posted 12-07-2004 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The information you provide is insufficient to allow one to draw any definitive conclusions. Despite the label on the box, the fact that it is green rather than "Tiffany Blue" raises questions about its authenticity. Get a magnifying glass, or better a loupe, and try to read the markings on the thimble.

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luv2sew1

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iconnumber posted 12-07-2004 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for luv2sew1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tiffany thimble is in white box (oops) gold letters?

Mr. Hood-the Box in fact white with gold letters-tiffany & Co. Fifth Ave & 37th st. Paris/ London. Inside there is a small sticker (in the lid) Mermaid's Tale ARC Sterling from Tiffany & Co. I looked in the thimble as you suggested. there appears to be a shield with a large "S" inside it and maybe a small "t" through the s. The outside is marked 8 with the word sterling in a arch around the 8. It fits in the box perfect and it was my great aunts. I would so much like to be able to date it. Thanks for your help.

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William Hood

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iconnumber posted 12-07-2004 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am unfamiliar with an ARC Company or one with a logo/trademark as you describe. Perhaps it was a company that specialized in making small novelties such as thimbles, and hopefully someone who is familiar with thimbles can identify who made this item for Tiffany. Tiffany & Co. was located at 5th Ave. and 37th St. between 1905 and 1940, so presumably your thimble was made within this time frame.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 12-08-2004 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suspect that your thimble was made by the Simons Co. They are primarily known for making thimbles and silver novelties, and their trademark is an Old English "S" within a shield-shaped reserve.

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William Hood

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iconnumber posted 12-08-2004 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paul:

According to Rainwater and Redfield (4th ed.), Simons, Bro. & Co. sold their flatware patterns and dies to Alvin in 1903 and stopped making flatware entirely. But nothing is said about thimbles. Do you know if Simons continued to make thimbles, perhaps as long as 1905-1940?

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 12-08-2004 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that Simons still produces thimbles today, and that thimbles are their primary business anymore. I have not seen any of their modern production, but 1900s & 1910s Simons objects I have handled have been finely made. So it is not surprising that if Tiffany wanted to retail a thimble, it would be a Simons thimble.

I am not sure when, and to what extent, thimbles overtook their production, but I do not recall seeing any non-thimble objects later than the 1910s or so. At one point, they made hollowware, jewelry, novelties (mostly sewing-related, it seems-bodkins, stilettos, etc.), and, as you point out, flatware.

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luv2sew1

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iconnumber posted 12-09-2004 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luv2sew1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP, I CAN NOT TELL YOU HOW THRILLED I AM FOR THE INFORMATION. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU ALL. CYNDIE

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