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Author Topic:   Indian Chrysanthemum vs. Tiffany Chrysathemum

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iconnumber posted 11-02-2004 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carlaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a bit curious to know the difference between "Indian Chrysathemum" and the later version now known as just "Chrysathemum". I have come across various pieces with the Tiffany Hallmark as well as 1890 or 1880 .M. The weight of the 1890 version is much heavier and the details seem to be crisper but that might just mean that it has not been used a great deal. Is there a sure way to tell the difference between the two versions of this pattern and is there an actual difference? Your help would be greatly appriciated!

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iconnumber posted 11-05-2004 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Indian Chrysanthemum" was the original name of this pattern, patented September 12, 1880 (see Hood, Berlin and Wawrynek, Tiffany Silver Flatware, 1845-1905: When Dining Was an Art [Woodbridge, Suffolk, 2000; reprinted 2003], p. 233ff). It portrays Chrysanthemum indicum, a species of the flower thought originally to be native to India but discovered later to be from China and Japan, being merely transhipped through Calcutta to the West. The word "Indian" was dropped from the pattern name sometime before 1905. All old pieces of Chrysanthemum are marked TIFFANY & Co. / STERLING / PAT. 1880 / M (raised). I am unaware of any pieces marked 1890. There is no difference between the "two versions" because only one version exists. Differences in weight and crispness of detail of antique pieces may be explained by wear of the pieces as well as by wear of the dies used to make them. Modern pieces (made from re-cut dies) characteristically have less crispness and definition than their antique forerunners.

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