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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 04-09-2004 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got a hot water jug with an unusual combination of marks. It has the Tiffany mark and a William Bogert B mark which is not common, but not really unusual. What is unusual is the third mark: The John Wendt 925 1000 in a shield mark. I would guess that the unifying link here is Bernard Beiderhase who was a partner of both Bogert and Wendt at the same time in about 1866. Has anyone ever seen these three marks together? Or for that matter has anyone ever seen a Wendt mark on a piece of Tiffany? Who made this piece, Bogert or Wendt?

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iconnumber posted 03-02-2007 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought that I would bring this up again, as no one ever responded. This combo is really unusual. What's the story?

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iconnumber posted 04-29-2009 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two more years have gone by. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

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iconnumber posted 04-30-2009 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whenever I see a set of marks by multiple entities on a piece, like this, I usually conclude that the piece passed through several hands, such as when a company went out of business or was sold. For example, there are pieces of flatware marked by both George Sharp and James Watts of Philadelphia. In that case it appears that Watts purchased some of Sharp's marked stock and simply added their own trademark, to the confusion of later scholars and collectors.

With your piece, we can be reasonably sure that Tiffany was the retailer, and didn't make it. So, Bogert or Wendt? I'd bet on Wendt. As you know, Wendt hollowware mainly bears the marks of retailers only. Bogert could well have purchased the piece from Wendt and then sold it on to Tiffany. I think that things like that happened a lot in the silver and jewelry trade, but the marks don't always tell the story, as they may in this case.

Anyway, I can't recall seeing another piece of Wendt retailed by Tiffany, but unmarked pieces of his may have made it to Tiffany through other channels. The fact that the Wendt mark is on this piece was probably a fluke.

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As mercenary as I am about silver, a criteria of my own for dealing with it is to like it, and I do. Sadly though, as a pitcher or jug with the blossom in harms way for someone like myself, that vase would not be suitable. However, it would work fine as a vase.

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