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outwest

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iconnumber posted 05-11-2006 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for outwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a bit of trouble figuring out which forum to post this in. There are two American forums, but both are for 19th Century and earlier. Feel free to move this if you feel it goes somewhere else.

In another thread there was discussion of teaset trays and rather then take over that thread I thought I might ask my questions here. I've been meaning to share this set for a while and haven't gotten around to it until now.

Here is an Art Deco International Silver hammered tea/coffee set. It reminds me of buildings I've seen in Los Angeles. smile

The tea pot, creamer and sugar bowl are dated 9/14/22. The coffee pot is dated 2/10/28.
Here is the tray mark:

I thought that the trays were almost always plated for strength. The tray is heavy and seems quite sturdy. May I still assume that this tray is sterling or is the mark just part of the name?

Also, you will notice that the tea pot handle has ivory inserts and the coffee pot has rubber inserts. What happened between 1922 and 1928? Was ivory outlawed for use? Or was this just a way for International Silver to reduce their costs of production and ultimate cost to the consumer? I must say that the ivory inserts are more attractive then the grey rubber inserts.

Lastly, all pieces are stamped sterling except the 1928 coffee pot trivet.
It says,

    "Derby S.P. Co.
    International S.Co.
    W.M. Mounts
    EPNS
    Hand Beaten"
[that's quite a mouthful for a little trivet].

So my last question is:
Is the whole tea set hand beaten or just the trivet? The tea set is marked I.S. Sterling with the knights head/shield then a pattern number and the amount each holds.

If the tea set is hand beaten then how did they get just the shields for the monograms unbeaten? Was it possible to mold silver to look beaten?

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salmoned

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iconnumber posted 05-11-2006 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salmoned     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very funny! Trays are not plated for strength, but rather for expense - plated trays are cheaper. The sterling mark in this case, being in the script of the maker's mark, would have been a [relatively] difficult forgery. Also, it appears the entire line is centered. So I would believe it to be a sterling piece, barring strong evidence to the contrary.

The date cartouche, as well as the hammered surface, suggest Arts & Crafts more than Art Deco to me, although it's really outside my comfort zone to comment on style. wink

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 05-11-2006 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The form of this lovely set looks like Colonial Revival. From what I have seen of IS production, it appears the company had some basic shapes for tea sets. As styles changed and evolved, the sets themselves would be updated to keep in fashion. Soooo, it looks like a basicly Colonial Revival tea set that has taken on some hammering from the Arts and Crafts era along with some Art Deco updating.

The shape and style were also used in silverplate holloware for the 1847 Rogers patterns Ambassador and Heraldic. These seems to have been a long running IS style, one which Wallace might still make. It is very elegant and adaptable.

The rubber may be a replacement, possible done during the WW2 years when ivory was not available. It probably looked much better when new. Alternatively, it may be bakelite or early plastic.

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Tad Hale

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iconnumber posted 05-12-2006 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tad Hale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outwest,

In my 1928 International Holloware catalogue, the Coffee,Creamer,Sugar and Tray sold for $220.00 and lists the Coffee with a capacity of 1 1/2 pints and the tray measuring 14 inches. It also states " To the lover of hand-hammered silver, this set will be a delight. The hand-chased shield for monogramming provides an opportunity to make the set exclusively characteristic of its owner."

In the same catalogue the Teapot is out of the larger matching tea service in the C 306 H 1 pattern.

Tad

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outwest

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iconnumber posted 05-12-2006 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! That's great. What I am calling the tea pot (the tall skinny one you're catalouge calls a coffee pot) is 1 1/2 pints so that has to be the set. Except mine was purchased in 1922 not 1928. The coffee pot (the bigger one) is 2 1/2 pints. Is that the one in your catalouge then? It is dated 1928. Funny, I had the tea/ coffee backwards!
Thanks again!

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Tad Hale

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iconnumber posted 05-12-2006 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tad Hale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outwest, The Coffee Pot in that set is 3 pints and the Tea Pot IS 2 1/2 pints. Although the catalog I used is from 1928, the set was still currently "active" from 1922-1928.

I also looked in my 1927 catalog and found that the same C 306 1 pattern blank could be bought in several different styles. It could be bought plain without any hammering or chasing, or it could also be bought in a hand-engraved "Adam" style, or in a style with scrolls and drops.

This was a very popular set during those days.

Tad

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