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iconnumber posted 05-17-2001 10:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just inherited a full service for 12 of Whiting Lily 1902. I know that it has been in my family since 1943. The marking on the back is the Frank Whiting "W" within a circle with 3 petals radiating from each side of the circle.
Can you tell me anything about it?
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Sheila Dubman

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iconnumber posted 05-23-2001 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Sorry it took so long for a response. It sounds like you have a very nice set of sterling flatware. Did your family buy it new in 1943? I'm not certain how long this pattern was made, although it was introduced way back in the 00's. It is not quite as desirable as Whiting Manufacturing Co.'s "Lily" pattern, but I'm sure it has its fans. The fancy floral patterns from the turn of the century are all quite popular. If the set is complete, and the pieces are not monogrammed, it should be worth quite a bit.

I hope this helps somewhat!


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iconnumber posted 06-07-2001 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sdubman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the reply and apologies for the delay in my response. I am confused by the statement that the pattern I described is not quite as valuable as Whiting Manugacturing's Lily. What is the difference between what I descibed and Whiting Manugacturing's Lily?
The set is a complete service for 12, in pristine condition, in its original case. It includes 9" dinner knives, 7" dinner forks, 6.25" salad forks, 8" round bowl soup spoons, 5.75" flat butter knives, oyster (cocktail?) forks, as well as 2 8" serving spoons, 1 5.75" serving(?) spoon and 24 6" teaspoons,

They are lightly emgraved on the back with a "D" and I don't know if they were new when my parents bought them in 1943.

I am encouraged by your comment that the set is valuable. Do you have any idea of how valuable it may be to a collector? This is family item and I would really like to sell it to someone who will appreciate it.


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iconnumber posted 06-28-2001 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WGS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whiting Division of the Gorham Company is different from Frank M. Whiting & Company. According to the Second Edition of Jewelers' Circular-Keystone Sterling Flatware Pattern Index, the Frank M. Whiting Lily pattern (formerly called Floral) was in production "before 1935." The Whiting Division pattern called Lily began production in 1902. There is a similarity of the patterns, but the Whiting Division pattern is more intricate and more delicate.


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iconnumber posted 06-28-2001 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sheila: in your second post, you asked two questions, and I will do my best to answer them:

1. I am confused by the statement that the pattern I described is not quite as valuable as Whiting Manugacturing's Lily. What is the difference between what I descibed and Whiting Manugacturing's Lily? WGS answered this one; I personally feel Whiting's pattern is a little more successful in design than F. Whiting's, although both are pretty. And why is one pattern more desirable than another? Many factors, including time of introduction, maker, and of course design all come into play. Here is an image of Whiting's pattern, from a recent eBay listing:

2. Do you have any idea of how valuable it may be to a collector? In this forum, we do not give values. However, there are many ways to find out approximate values. Start by checking eBay in the coming months for sets or individual pieces. Some websites, particularlyAntique Cupboard provide extensive listings of many patterns, with prices. You might check here. Or you can take the set to an appraiser. (Just don't have it valued by somebody to whom you may later sell it).

I hope this has been helpful.

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