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cricket
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iconnumber posted 10-30-2000 02:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

For years, I have been trying to find information on Shaw and Berry. I have a very impressive sterling silver tilting teakettle with stand and burner. It is of good weight and very rococo. I was told it is hand forged. It is marked Shaw and Berry, Sterling and has a mark that I cannot read due to it not being clear. I have asked several dealers in silver and none could help me other than being highly impressed with the piece. I have wondered if it could be a name of a jewelry company on the caliber of Tiffany. I am almost certain it was made in the 19th Century. The mark almost looks like a cross at the top of a shield but not sure. It may be a sword behind the shield with the sword tip showing beneath. This is purely a wild guess. Any help would be most appreciated.

Scott

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 10-30-2000 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you get photographs of the piece and mark? Could the following picture be of the mark that you are describing?

Paul

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iconnumber posted 10-31-2000 08:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Paul,

Thanks very much for your reply. I am enclosing a picture of the kettle and another of the marks.

Thanks, again.

Scott


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iconnumber posted 10-31-2000 08:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paul,

I meant to mention that on the stand there are hand written (scratched in) letters R N X G Y (or X, not sure) and 35-6.

There is no hallmark on the stand - only the kettle. There is "sterling" on all three pieces including burner. I don't know if you can see the ivory mounts at the handle of the kettle though the picture is fairly clear. I hope this helps.

Scott

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 10-31-2000 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having seen the outline of the mark, it certainly looks like the trademark of the William B. Durgin Co. Look inside the shield and see if you can't make out a cursive D. That would be Durgin's mark.

The Durgin company was located in Concord, NH, from 1853 to 1931, when they moved to Providence, RI. Gorham assumed control of Durgin in 1905.

The Durgin company was a very accomplished firm, although they have little recognition today. Your fine kettle-on-stand is certainly something they could have produced. Shaw & Berry were the retailers of this piece; an investigation of jewelers in your area might turn up more information on them.

Hope this helps!

Brent

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 07-11-2008 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shaw & Berry Co was owned by William C Shaw and Charles E Berry who were located in Washington D C. In 1904 Berry bought out Shaw and associated himself with J Lee Whitmore. They formed the successor firm to Shaw & Berry Co which was Berry & Whitmore Co.

In the same year, 1904, a new Shaw & Brown Co store opened. Shaw in particular was noted for stocking "high end" items.

My guess is that Shaw & Berry were never as big a Tiffany, but the quality of both store's goods would have been well matched. Shaw stocked Tiffany glass, Tiffany Studio Bronzes as well as diamonds and other gems in artistic settings, exquisite silver and imported novelties of all kinds.


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iconnumber posted 03-11-2009 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the Berry & Whitmore Co retailer's mark taken from a Durgin Old Standish pattern butter knife:

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