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tvandenb

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iconnumber posted 03-04-2005 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tvandenb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have an old silver dagger that my father picked up in South East Asia some 40 years ago. I was wondering if anyone out there had any idea what is is or where it is from, judging from the handle it is European -

I got out the magnifying glass and managed to find a hallmark stamp on it, it was really hard to make out, but I think it is a G with some sort of symbol followed by a J.

The G could also be a C or an O, but i'm pretty sure it is a G.

I've attached a picture of what the mark looks like to me on this post :

If anyone can I identify the maker it would be appreciated...

Thanks


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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 03-04-2005 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice object, to me it looks High victorian, because of the leval of workmanship, modeling and subject.
Still, unless there are some more hallmarks (city, country, duty, etc.,look really closely with magnification all over including the scabard) the chance of finding the maker is slim, you need to know where before who or else it is hard to find that one maker out of all the countries this could come from.
My guess is European, 1860-1890.

If you can get a close up image of the mark you've drawn it is possible that one of the regulars on this forum would recognize it.
Good luck

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Benji

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iconnumber posted 03-07-2005 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure if this is it, but could be. I will give you the web address so you can see the mark and see if it matches yours. It won't let me copy the mark, only the info.
Goodnow & Jenks
Boston, Mass. ~ 1893 - 1905
Fine makers & retailers of sterling holloware and novelties, they were the principle suppliers to Boston's upper crust during their time. Successors of Kennard & Jenks.

Hope this helps......

Benji

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tvandenb

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iconnumber posted 03-12-2005 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tvandenb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks, but no, that's not it,the symbol in the middle is definitely like I have drawn it. I'm pretty sure it's not an american made blade either - i'll keep looking at it and see if I can find another mark, no luck yet..

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blakstone

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iconnumber posted 03-13-2005 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ever since I first saw this post, it struck me that the mark exactly follows the form of a French maker's mark. I did some checking, and it appears to be a very close match for that of the Parisian jeweler Louis-Gabriel Jarry of 32 rue des Deux-Portes-Saint-Saveur, registered in 1849 and cancelled in 1879:

If this is the mark, then it should be accompanied by the mandatory fineness guarantee mark somewhere on the dagger: either the head of Minerva (in a canted rectangular outline for .950 silver or a barrel-shaped outline for .800 silver) or a boar's head (which guaranteed a minimum fineness of .800). Either of these marks would be very small, so check carefully.

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salmoned

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iconnumber posted 03-15-2005 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salmoned     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I missing something? I don't see the object to which agleopar is referring. All I see is the drawing of a mark. Was the object edited out?

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 03-16-2005 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Salmoned, I saw the post right after tvandenb had put it up and he included a Link to a sword forum that had the picture.

As I understand it that has drawbacks that meant it was deleted and I am hoping that tvandenb will repost an image here of what is a very beautiful object.

Tvandenb, Blackstone has nailed it and I hope you will post an image so everyone can see it.

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tvandenb

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iconnumber posted 03-24-2005 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tvandenb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry guys, I don't have automatic notification turned on so I didn't see these posts til now. The mark that blakstone has identifies looks exactly like the mark on the dagger, I still have not found the other mark on the dagger, but I will keep looking, is it possible it could have been on the blade itself? The current blade is not the original blade as it was broken and replaced around 50 years ago.

I've reposted the original link to the sword forum where I have placed photos of the dagger.

Once again, thanks for your help in this. I'll post more as soon as I have located the other mark. Any more info that anyone has is much appreciated.

Theo van den Berg

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 03-24-2005 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do look for tiny marks with magnification, they might be there.

Looking forward to seeing it.

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