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TITSLULU&BOBO

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iconnumber posted 03-17-2005 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TITSLULU&BOBO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I'm a newbie at this, and apologise for my ignorance of silversmiths and their marks. Can you give me information about a TIFFANY sterling whistle I have? I would like to know the appoximate date it was made and the maker/makers of the whistle? It's stamped on the underside of mouth piece of the whistle:
STERLING R +B CO. (all 3 in separate boxes)
744
TIFFANY & CO.

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sazikov2000

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iconnumber posted 03-17-2005 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi TITS(nice name!)-

here is your whistle

Why you do not ask the seller?

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labarbedor

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iconnumber posted 03-17-2005 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for labarbedor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well tits lulu or bobo, it seems kind of rude to ask for advice on someone else's merchandise, and not even admit you are doing it. But Sazi, I don't think it is quite kosher to swipe a photo off another web site.

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TITSLULU&BOBO

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iconnumber posted 03-18-2005 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TITSLULU&BOBO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well La bar be, Talk about rude! In the first place, I never sent in a pix of the whistle. And in the second place MY TIFFANY & CO. WHISTLE is dangling around my neck. I thought this site was for INFORMATION not PETULANT PRIMA DONNA'S.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 03-18-2005 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TITSLULU&BOBO,

Let me take some responsibility for any assumptions that have been made by our diligent, supportive and helpful members. They are only doing what I have asked; to get more involved when it comes to new members not following the Guidelines and general forum abuse. Thank you for I now know that I need to clarify that request a little.

I hope you will realize that most of the responsibility is yours. If you had been a little more sensitive to things I expect it would have taken a different path.

You are associated with a Web development firm so I shouldn't have to mention Netiquette. You must realize your User ID isn't polite sounding and since it is in ALL CAPS it is considered yelling/shouting.

In the SFF Guidelines and in the New Members' Forum very first post ("Please Read Before You Post") there are recommendations and suggestions on how to best present your questions, especially for first time posters. For example:

  • Tell us the Why of your question
    We're not being snoopy; knowing will help us help you:
    What is your interest in silver?
    What is it that you hope to learn from this question?
    What is your purpose in asking?

Also when you registered you shared nothing about yourself. Not even basic interests.

If you are sincere, please re-register, use an ID that is not shouting and is something that is not so disrespectful sounding. For example, why not use your email address name, "Hunter"?

Once you have re-registered then please try re-posting. Since you are affiliated with a Web development firm it shouldn't be difficult for you to post a photo. Provide a little more info about you, your interests and why you are asking and I am sure you will get a more positive response.

If you are just fooling around then please know this is not the place.

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labarbedor

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iconnumber posted 03-18-2005 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for labarbedor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, It’s: La Barbe for “the beard”, I won’t ask for an explanation of your moniker, and am happy I didn’t attempt one myself. In the first place I never accused you of sending in the photo. I suggested Sazikov did that, and I hope there is no mistake there too. In fact I just would have ignored your question, except I saw the photo, and thought if it really was a purloined pix, it could cause trouble for the site. Evidently I was jumping to conclusions in your case, when I saw a similar whistle was posted on eBay, as Sazikov no doubt had discovered. Now I have been in the silver business for 35 years, and since I don’t remember seeing one of these before, they should be rather rare. It seemed to a little too coincidental, to be accidental. But as a card carrying skeptic, I must admit unlikely occurrences do happen even if widely dispersed. In this case I am obliged to ask forgiveness from tl&b. One of them sent me a picture of a similar whistle, and since the email seems to have originated from Britain I doubt it could be connected to the one posted. In the same respect I am not a Petulant Prima Donna. It would be hard to be petulant as I have been sick in bed all week. As for Prima Donna, perhaps a Primo Don, since “Mio Patrigno” was from Naro, Sicily, but that is another story.
As to the original question, I could find nothing in the Tiffany book about a supplier “R& B co” nor could I find the mark in several other references, perhaps someone can get me off the hook here.
Finally, since if you have read this far you must be really bored, I have said many times that I could care less if someone wants advice about how to describe an eBay listing in public or private. However, asking for advice in public on any auction is, in my opinion, rude. I can rarely go to an auction without someone asking what some lot is worth. This ignores the possibility that I own, or intend to bid on the lot, and also ignores the fact that I am in business. I don’t ask Doctors for medical advice in public, and wish others would follow suit with antique dealers. I hope that explains my transgression.

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TITSLULU&BOBO

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iconnumber posted 03-18-2005 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TITSLULU&BOBO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cher Monsieur La Barbe and all others who have taken offence at my posting, I am so sorry we got off on the wrong foot. In a nutshell; I make and collect miniatures. That is my primary interest. In the world of miniature enthusiasts, a moniker like "TITSLULU&BOBO" (the names of my three cats) would not raise an eyebrow. I did not mean it to be flippant. I should have learned more about your sensibilities before plunging in. For the record, the "tits" part of the moniker does not refer to a part of the human anatomy. When my cat was a kitten and before he had a name, I called him "Kitten". In baby talk (sorry, we all do it with our animals) "Kitten" became "Titten", which was eventually shortened to "Tits".
I am also very interested in silver jewelry, particularly antiques. But I am a casual collector and do not know much about your field. I love my whistle and have no thought of parting with it. It was a gift from a friend. I wear it often and it regularly elicits questions. I have suspected that it was rare, but beyond that I know woefully little about this piece. If anyone can tell me any of the story of my whistle, I would be grateful.
As for the offending moniker, this will be the final posting. I shall reregister with a different name. Although this name has brought lots of response and no publicity is bad publicity ...
Just kidding. Again, I apologize to anyone that I have offended.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 03-18-2005 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we all got off to a difficult start. I do believe this thread serves as a good example. I would like to leave up so as to demonstrate: how even with a few initial misunderstandings, if we are polite and civil to each other there can be a happy ending.

Please let us know what your new ID is (post it here using the “Kitties” ID) and then I will close this thread to further posts.

I won’t rush to closing this thread just in case there is need for some follow up.

Thanks to all.

I look forward to meeting you under your new ID and to your future posts.


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Patrick Vyvyan

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iconnumber posted 03-22-2005 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe your whistle may have been made by R Blackinton of North Attleboro, Massachusetts, founded in 1862 and active until the 1960s, and retailed by Tiffany.

I've never seen one of these whistles. However Blackinton's mark was "R", a small horizonatal dagger, "B", so check yours carefully to see if the R+B is in fact a dagger!

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