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jdsilverstuff Posts: 5 |
posted 04-29-2005 02:21 PM
  
I have a ladle with the trademarks of the Unger Brothers (U.B.)& sterling 925 fine, which looks like the Passaic 1900 10-5/8" ladle produced by Unger Bros., except the silver handle is terminated with a round, silver socket into which was a glass handle. Was this a unique U.B. design or was a U.B. ladle modifyed by another silversmith? IP: Logged |
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Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 04-30-2005 12:28 AM
I suspect that the pertinent consideration here is the glass maker. There are a large number of silver pieces that have glass or china handles. I have never seen much of a pattern to them, aside from Pairpoint. Looks like some enterprising glass maker took a ladle and made it fit his handle. Does the glass look to be contemporaneous with the silver? IP: Logged |
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jdsilverstuff Posts: 5 |
posted 04-30-2005 12:10 PM
Unfortunately, the glass handle was broken off sometime in the past ... all that remained was the piece that was imbedded in the silver socket. I have pictures but I haven't figured out how to get them on this site yet. Since one of the Unger brothers did cut class work as part of their other products, I wondered if they might have attempted this project since the silver socket attachment was professionally done. Any ideas?? IP: Logged |
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jdsilverstuff Posts: 5 |
posted 05-02-2005 12:46 PM
Doing a search, I found that ms.Dale submitted a question on 5-10-2004 which seemed to deal with this same topic of Unger Bros. flatware with a glass handle. Is there any way on this forum to connect these two inquiries? I tried but was not allowed to respond to ms.Dale's question. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 05-02-2005 01:42 PM
like this? Identifying "Fake" Unger? IP: Logged |
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jdsilverstuff Posts: 5 |
posted 05-02-2005 01:54 PM
Yes, that was the one I looked at. In that case the handle was in tact but there was no picture of it. They were also questioning if this was an actual Unger Bros. product. In my case, the ladle seems certain but I can't find where they produced a glass handled design?? IP: Logged |
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Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 05-02-2005 11:17 PM
FWIW, my impression has usually been that these are pieces that were adapted haphazardly to the needs of glass makers. Aside from Pairpoint, I don't know of any silver maker that systematically made things for glass or china handles in any continuous fashion. My basis for saying this is I have never seen many such pieces. Each struck me as sort of a one of a kind item. If these had been a general practice, I suspect we would see a lot more of them. With patterns that are very consistent. In other words, had there been a general production of such items there would be quite a few floating around in certain patterns. AFAICT there arn't. That being said, there are a number of things that appear with mother of pearl handles. American Silver's Moselle pattern does have fish servers that show up from time to time. And I have seen place fish pieces in Moselle with pearl handles. Given the difficulties of cutting nickle steel to make these, it seems logical to conclude that the company had a hand in it, working with dies and blanks to produce them. My guess would be that the glass and china handles are in some way connected to the pearl handle end of things. Simply being another medium used on pieces. IP: Logged |
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jdsilverstuff Posts: 5 |
posted 05-03-2005 08:24 AM
Thanks for your help. I will make a new handle for the ladle and enjoy using it. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 05-19-2005 12:59 PM
I thought you might like to see this glass handled knife:  IP: Logged |
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