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Manhasset

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iconnumber posted 07-20-2005 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Manhasset     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you please tell me more about this spoon? I have found it, I think, in "Tiffany Silver" by Carpenter (p.121) and, although I know it is the seal of the City of New York, I would like to know what this shape of spoon might have been used for.

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Silver Lyon

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iconnumber posted 07-20-2005 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Silver Lyon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I wrong, or doesn't the Seal of the City of New York feature tuns (barrels) rather than bales (of cotton?)? And the European normally carry a bag of money?

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William Hood

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iconnumber posted 07-20-2005 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a bon bon spoon. In the future, when posting pictures, please include dimensions.

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Manhasset

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iconnumber posted 07-20-2005 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Manhasset     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry!
5" Long.
Is it c.1910 as Carpenter suggests, or much more modern?

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salmoned

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iconnumber posted 07-20-2005 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salmoned     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SL, I'd bet Tiffany used an altered design to avoid paying licensing fees to those New Amsterdam Yankees! wink

If I see it correctly, that particular 'M' mark was used 1873 to 1891 according to the 925-1000 website. 1910 would have been marked with a script 'M'.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 07-20-2005 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


THE SEAL OF NEW YORK CITY



The NYC City Seal

The above web sites provide the interesting background for the New York City seal.

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Manhasset

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iconnumber posted 07-22-2005 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Manhasset     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for your help.

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Sgt Silver

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iconnumber posted 03-01-2009 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sgt Silver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those interested in the evolution of the New York City Seal, here is a link to the history.

The West Side Highway fell down in the mid-1970s. It had, at intervals, five city Seals, which were repeated. In the mid-1980s the City sold some of them to the public.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 03-02-2009 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to Sgt Silver for the NYC seal history.

Sgt Silver was going to post a rather large scanned PDF version of the NYC seal info. Sgt Silver contacted me about the best way to so such a post....

I converted the PDF scanned image via OCR to text and added the images and put it all into the linked WEB page (HISTORY OF THE CAST IRON NYC SEALS FROM THE WEST SIDE HIGHWAY). Hopefully this loads faster and is easier to read.

New Yorkers who were around when the West Side Highway was still elevated, may remember the seals. Here are two images of the actual seals:

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