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iconnumber posted 07-17-2000 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Dear All,

I have posted five items of Sterling silver which I cannot identify, or can only partially identify. Perhaps those among this Forum with much more knowledge than I, or those who merely are sleuths, can give me a hand. One piece, stamped only with English Hallmarks and what looks to be a vendor's name (i.e., Norre & Roempke), is particularly vexing to me. Any help you can lend is most appreciated.

  • Item One:
    J. R. Armiger Sugar Shell, or small ladle. Obverse: an identifying characteristic of this pice is the image of a shell on the tip of both the front and back of the handle. The image is a bit more ornate on the front than on the back, but both images are clearly of shells.

  • Item Two:
    J. S. MacDonald Serving Spoon. The front of this serving size spoon reminds me of a "repousse" pattern, while the back of the handle shows what might be leaves or a vine, extending from the tip of the handel down both sides, about a third of the way onto the
    center of the bowl, itself.

  • Item Three:
    Stieff place knife in a very plain and simple, pointed handle pattern.

  • Item Four:
    English place fork, stamped with hallmarks for "Sterling", "Birmingham" and one which is unrecognizable. There is a "T" within a circle lower towards the tines, and the stamp of Norre & Roempke (which I assume was the store which sold the item).
    Tip of the English fork, showing a pattern of three larger roses at tip, followed by two smaller roses. On the back of the tip the three more roses, a tad larger than the three on the front.

  • Item Five:
    English ladel, very plain and simple, with pointed handle, hallmarked for Sterling and London, with what appears to be a "W" for a maker's mark.

Thanks very much,


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iconnumber posted 07-17-2000 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to the Silver Salon Forums.

The quality of your photos and the lack of photos of the marks makes this a bit difficult ....

Most likely all of your items are American but without clear shots of the marks we will not know for sure.

  • Item One could be Charles II by Dominick & Haff introduced in 1894.
  • Item Two looks like No. 10 by Dominick & Haff introduced in 1896.
  • Item Three - not enough info; but my guess is that it is American made.
  • Item Four is Lancaster by Gorham introduced in 1897.
  • Item Five - not enough info but might be one of the "Antique" patterns -- maybe Pointed Antique by Dominick & Haff

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iconnumber posted 07-17-2000 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Scott, and all,

After reviewing your thoughts, I am curious to know if you read the data which I have accompanying the photos? Was there ever a "J. R. Armiger" manufacturing flatware, or is that name yet another vendor's mark -- it sure looks like a manufacturer's imprint to me. Similarly, with Item Two, there is a clear name of "J. S. MacDonald" on the back side, as I indicated in the info blocks above the photos. Perhaps the additional data helps the low quality of the photos?

Thanks for any additional thoughts you may have.


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iconnumber posted 07-17-2000 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
J. R. Armiger Co. began in 1892 and continued until 1936. J. S. MacDonald Co. was listed in directories between 1911 and 1912. Both companies were both based in Baltimore, Md. and were jewelers/retailers.

James R. Armiger was a trained watchmaker. Between1878 and 1892 he was in partnership with John C. Justis in the firm of Justis & Armiger. Justis & Armigier was listed in directories as manufacturers of silverware both solid & plated..

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