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mdhavey

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iconnumber posted 11-03-2005 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mdhavey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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One of the more interesting and rare flatware patterns is Lotus, in the Egyptial Revival taste, made by Gorham in 1865.

The problem is that Whiting apparently made the same pattern, though I have been unable to find a date for the Whiting version. The Whiting Mfg. Co. mark started in 1866 (changing from Whiting, Cowan & Bowen) and the company was bought out by Gorham in 1926.

Does anyone, perhaps with knowledge of the early Gorham days, know where this remarkable pattern came from and how it was that both Gorham and Whiting apparently produced it?

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Kayvee

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iconnumber posted 11-03-2005 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kayvee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a long, two-part article by William Hood, John Olson and Charles Curb entitled “American Silver Flatware in the Egyptian Revival Style” in the May-June and July-August 2003 issues of Silver Magazine. According to these experts, both Whiting and Gorham made flatware patterns with a lotus motif, although what Whiting called their pattern is unknown. Gorham launched their Lotus in 1869. The Whiting and Gorham patterns are very similar, except that in the Gorham pattern the terminal ends feature three lotus blossoms while Whiting’s has five blossoms. According to the authors, “It seems highly probable that one of these patterns was copied from the other, but since there is no evidence for the exact date when Whiting’s pattern was introduced, we cannot say which came first.” This article has a wealth of further information about the Lotus pattern.

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mdhavey

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Great information! I'll order a copy of the Silver Magazine, I know they have back issues readily available. Thanks so much!
MD

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Polly

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I just bought a cream-and-sugar set in Gorham's lotus pattern. Has anyone ever seen Gorham (or Whiting) lotus hollowware before? Mine has Gorham's D date letter for 1871.

It's beautifully made, like all Gorham's work from this period. The hole behind the creamer's spout is a heart! I couldn't get the camera quite far enough, so the photo's blurry, but you can see the shape:

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agleopar

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So ironically I'm working on a sea shell with a lotus handle. I'm only taking a small dent out and giving it a polish. So yes I have seen other Lotus holloware! I'll look at the marks tomorrow but I think it's Gorham.

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Polly

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I would love to see a photo, if you're allowed.

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asheland

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Those are AWESOME! smile

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Polly

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Thanks, Asheland--I thought they'd appeal to you! They were listed as having been made c. 1965, I guess because of the pattern number, which may explain why I won the for less than the melt price. Or maybe it was because fewer and fewer people share our particular taste in silver. In any case, I'm really glad I rescued them from the cauldron.

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asheland

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That's a great deal! Sometimes those auctions are worth the trouble! And it shows a lot of people don't have a clue as to what they have.

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ahwt

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Gorham must have been on the forefront of design for most of the life of the company. Have their designers been identified?

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