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Paul S

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iconnumber posted 06-26-2006 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have wondered for a while now on how to pronounce the name of the Cincinnati retailer/manufacturer DUHME.

I have a friend who lives in Cincinnati who says he doesn’t know but assures me the locals would say DO-ME . I always pronounced it DOOM but have also be told it should pronounced somewhat French…DOOM-A. Can anyone help me on this? Thanks

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 06-26-2006 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I live 90 miles northeast of Cincinnati and have always heard it pronounced DO ME. However, if you are buying a piece of Duhme silver you can pronounce it however you want.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 06-26-2006 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always pronounced it DUMB, but I'm not without my prejudices. . .

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 06-26-2006 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doom is the one I've always used. And heard. But this may be a St Louis pronunciation. The Duhme family had a store or shop there also.

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doc

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iconnumber posted 06-27-2006 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is such a timely topic because I was just having this conversation on Sunday, as I was putting a Duhme spoon into my booth at an antiques mall and someone asked me about it. I, too, have pronounced it DOOM, but being from New England, I clearly am not the expert, so I await the definitive answer.

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 06-27-2006 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dale, I checked in Cincinnati and the St Loius connection is not known. Waiting for a definitive answer is going to be similar to 'is it TAH MAH TOE or TA MAY TOE. You know that squishy red thing. A clue to the correct prounciation is that his birthplace was Osnabruck, Hanover, Germany.

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 06-27-2006 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Went looking on internet and found this. D'oench Duhme Doctrine, a federal statutory and judicial doctrine named after a US Supreme Court decision. The pronunciation is 'dench doom'. So it would seem as though the correct is DOOM.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 06-27-2006 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
...'is it TAH MAH TOE or TA MAY TOE.

That one's easy; it's pronounced So_lan_um Lie_koe_per_sigh_come. . .

[This message has been edited by wev (edited 06-27-2006).]

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 06-27-2006 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Herman Duhme was a German immigrant form Osnabruck. Norman Mack notes in his book on Missouri silver that Mr. Duhme employed James H. Cook to manage a store in St. Louis during the year 1852. Mr. Mack states that silver bearing the mark "Duhme St. Louis" has been found and this most likely refers to the store managed by Cook. In a letter from Cook to Duhme dated February 4, 1852, Mr. Cook notes that business is "extremely dull." Perhaps Duhme had trouble breaking into the St. Louis market and explains why his connection with St. Louis is not well known.

Many of the French settlers in St. Louis no longer have their names pronounced as the French would and I expect that would be the same for Cincinnati. This would be particularly true of Duhme since he was from what is now the north western part of Germany. Actually, in view of Duhme's German heritage I am not sure that I would look to the French for the correct pronunciation. I think the definitive answer must come from someone that lives in Cincinnati.

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outwest

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iconnumber posted 06-27-2006 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 2nd year high school German student says in German this would be pronounced:
Doo-mah
But, it was probably anglicized like everything else to be pronounced:
Doom (which is how I've always pronounced it).

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witzhall

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iconnumber posted 06-27-2006 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for witzhall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wev, your first post, and the ensuing discussion, made me think of the movie Dumb and Dumber, the last word of which, here in the Boston neighborhood, would be pronounced "dummah" . . .

I'd vote for "doom" followed by the schwa sound.

[This message has been edited by witzhall (edited 06-27-2006).]

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wev
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iconnumber posted 06-27-2006 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm; might be a pamphlet in that:

Duhme and Duhmer:
The Emasculation of Design
in American Silver


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swarter
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iconnumber posted 06-28-2006 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enuf!! Maybe this topic is ready to be Duhmed to oblivion. . . .

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