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FredZ

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iconnumber posted 10-15-2006 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FredZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes we are blessed to see a wonderful item here in the southwest..... Yesterday I went to the new Tiffany's store here in Tucson because I had been told of a beautiful American Indian bowl that they were displaying for the opening of the store. I was hopeful and yet cautious that it might be one of Tiffany's older pieces of holloware.

I first saw it through the window and smiled. They had brought out of their archives and were displaying "The Pueblo Bowl". It was well displayed in a single covered case with unobstructed view of the entire bowl and low enough so I could easily examine the interior.

The bowl is large and is decorated with geometric designs to imitate the Southwest Indian pottery. The designs are created with contrasting areas of copper and niello inlays. The shape and proportions are wonderful and there is wonderfully executed repousse and chasing of southwest flora and lettering identifying the plants. The bowl has a few dents and deep scratches inside the bowl.

I suspect it was hand raised and that the recesses for the inlays were etched and then the copper may have been electroformed in some of the etched portions and niello melted into the others.

The label on the case gave a very short history of the bowl. I hope to be able to visit it once more before it returns to the Tiffany Archives.

Can anyone shed further information about this marvelous bowl?

Fred

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 10-15-2006 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't this a Paulding Farnam design?

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 10-15-2006 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will they allow you to take pictures that you could post?

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FredZ

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iconnumber posted 10-15-2006 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FredZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a G. Paulding Farnham design and was made for an exhibition. I revisited the store this afternoon and I resend my comment about the spelling of mesquite. It was my odd eyesight and not their odd spelling. The lettering is etched and not chased. The niello shows signs of loss and this loss has shown me the depth of their etch for the recess.

The operations manager was very helpfull and I he suggested I contact the archival office for any additional information I might need. I suspect I will be back there several more times.

I did not ask if I could take images and may if I get possitive responce from the folks at the Tiffany archive.

I believe I have seen images of the bowl in some book. Does anyone have the new book on Farnham?

Fred

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hello

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iconnumber posted 10-18-2006 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hello     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a Pueblo pattern vase on page 195 of Silver in America, 1840-1940, maybe this is the one you are thinking of. On the next page there is another vase designed by Farnham.

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FredZ

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I believe that is the bowl and it is spectacular in person!

Fred

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 10-27-2006 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't expect much help from the folks at the archives...their job is to sell Tiffany product, not to help people who own Tiffany products already. They are helpful to museums (including my own) but not to anyone else, really. I'd love to see a picture of this. The Pueblo bowls, done by Farnham, are the rarest of all Tiffany forms. Finding one would be a real coup.

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Ulysses Dietz
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Sorry! I didn't read it carefully. Didn't realize Tiffany had expanded its reach so far. I was standing next to that Pueblo Bowl when it sold for an astonishing amount at the time at an auction in NY. It is the only piece they called the Pueblo Bowl--but not the sole piece of Indian material. The World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago in 1893 was the venue for the first big display of Farnham's Indian things...they have been pulled together visually in a great little catalogue done by John Blades of the Flagler Museum (Whitehall House) in Palm Beach, just this year.

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FredZ

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iconnumber posted 10-29-2006 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FredZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I returned to the display at Tiffany's and was told they could not allow any photographs of the bowl. It is not the one photographed in the Silver in America exhibition book. I had the opportunity to see a copy of the book and the one illustrated is set with ruby like stones.

I did try calling the archives and got nowhere. I am a regular at the new Tiffany store and have gotten to know many of the employees. I suspect I will visit the display several more times before they return the bowl to the archives.

I did see a Tiffany plate in the Farnham Pueblo design that was on one of the online actiones within the last few months. I do not recall what it went for nor who offered it.

It has been wonderful to be able to study this bowl even if it is from behind a plexiglass case.

Fred

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