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carlaz

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iconnumber posted 06-10-2008 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carlaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just curious if anyone know what manufacturer and pattern was produced with the most pieces types (either custom order or advertised in catalog). Anybody care to guess?

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 06-10-2008 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are asking about American dye struck pattern sterling silver then I would have to guess its Gorham’s Chantilly.

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 06-10-2008 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fairfax, just because it's been so popular over the years?

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carlaz

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iconnumber posted 06-10-2008 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carlaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there any die hard Chantilly collectors out there that would care to guess the exact number of piece types? I would be willing to start digging through literature but I thought it might be kinda fun to get some other opinions first.

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iconnumber posted 06-10-2008 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See: Chantilly 100th Anniversary Pieces

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 06-11-2008 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there Carla,

I know that Chantilly has always been my best selling pattern, and its introduction does fall into the time period when you simply could not have enough different pieces for the place setting, not to mention servers, so I would think Chantilly would be toward the top. There are several catalogues of Chantilly out there so it would be easy to check.

I would also look at another still popular pattern that is even older, and that would be the "Repousse" pattern by Kirk. It was introduced about 70 years before Chantilly, and with all the sizes of individual pieces and servers out there, I think that this pattern may top the VARIETY list.

Always happy to help.

Marc

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carlaz

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iconnumber posted 06-12-2008 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carlaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Curiosity has gotten the better of me. I reviewed the Gorham Chantilly 1895 reprint catalog and it had 98 pieces available. The 1914 reprint has 146 pieces. Some variations from the two catalogs include different versions of many of the serving pieces as well as multiple sizes of some piece types (food pushers, cheese scoops). If I were to include these to my total, plus the Fancy work pieces (cigar cutter, Chocolate muddle, etc.) as well as the enameled pieces, my total figure is well over 200.

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chase33

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iconnumber posted 06-30-2008 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chase33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Sorry to be so late in replying to this topic. I collect Chantilly and have managed to create three spreadsheets that sort-of coincide with the three main production periods of Chantilly. According to what I have been able to learn from various catalogues, other dealers, advertisments and articles, the total main production pieces are:
1895-1903 - 103 pieces
1904-1949 - 318 pieces
1950-current - 188 pieces

These lists include the different options like gold wash and the different weights (trade, regular, extra and massive) but not the more unusual custom options like the enameling and delft enameling. I also did not include the custom pieces (cigar cutter etc) or the recent sterling handle/stainless implement production pieces (punch ladles, pasta servers etc.)

I would be more than happy to share the lists and would also love to know if there are any pieces I may have missed.

Robert

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carlaz

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iconnumber posted 07-16-2008 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carlaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert:

I am curious, do you count the pieces made by Shreve as part of the Gorham Chantilly?

[This message has been edited by carlaz (edited 07-16-2008).]

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chase33

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iconnumber posted 07-22-2008 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chase33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

No I have only included those made by Gorham. I didn't count Shreve, Birks or anyone who makes up "new" pieces.

Robert

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