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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 07-05-2008 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a contination of my Basket Weave Designs post, here are some other random examples of trompe l'oeil silver.

c1885 Gorham "fabric" tea strainer.

c1885 Gorham "fabric" olive dish.



Gorham button hook, 1884 date letter. Handle is stamped with an oxidized texture having kind of a pitted or corroded look, and the handle is intentionally dented in various places (the dents are part of the original design and not later "damage" from misuse).

A related piece is pictured in Carpenter's Gorham book. It is some kind of biscuit box (I think) with intentional dents. Evidently my copy of that book got lost during one of my moves, so I can't reference the exact page or piece.

This style, especially the intentionally damaged pieces, seemingly was not very popular. Most of what I have seen is Gorham. I bet some were probably even melt down because people thought they were damaged and not worth savin (in fact the button hook was sold to me as a damaged, as-is piece).

Does anybody have others to share?

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June Martin
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iconnumber posted 07-05-2008 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for June Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Paul. You've posted some great stuff today! The page in Carpenter's Gorham book is 118. It's a cracker jar made in 1880 and Carpenter speculates as you do that the odds are not good that such pieces would survive unscathed either because people would melt it down because they thought it was damaged or try to fix what they perceived as damage.

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 07-07-2008 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her's a Whiting example employing trompe l'oeil linen fold corners.

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 07-07-2008 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a Gorham sterling and amethyst cigar cutter. It's a sample piece and probably one of a kind.
Gorham was doing some strange and bizarre things in the 1880's and this is one of them. What this texture is supposed to be is... Well, I don't know what it's supposed to be.




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Clive E Taylor

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iconnumber posted 07-07-2008 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clive E Taylor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Gorham button hook, 1884 is fascinating. My immediate reaction was - Aesthetic Movement piece. Then I reflected on the Japanese infuence which had largely created that movement and I realised that the handle was based on the form of a chopstick - bashii I think the Japanse word. Then it dawned on me that the Japanese often carefully crafted objects for the tea ceremony which were made to look crude and damaged.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 07-07-2008 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A modest contribution, but the only "chain" spoon I've run across, marked only STERLING, engraved Feb.3."91 on reverse.

~Cheryl

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 07-07-2008 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Richard, thanks for posting. We can always count on you for great examples. That cigar cutter is stunning. I am jealous. To some degree, its surface resembles ostrich leather.

Clive, I would describe it as Aesthetic Movement as well. Finding beauty in damage or imperfection is a definite theme in Japanese design. The Japanese also pioneered clothes with intentional holes and fraying. MoMA used to sell these fabulous Japanese porcelain mugs molded to look as though they were dented.

Cheryl, neat spoon! Shiebler produced several objects, such as button hooks, with a very similar chain link design.

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Clive E Taylor

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iconnumber posted 07-07-2008 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clive E Taylor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought a very nice pre-Meiji lacquer dish for the tea ceremony once, very cheaply due to the self evident damage. By a known artist - I loved it. Met a Japanese restorer to repair a major piece of my wife's - showed him the dish. He studied it for some minutes, and asked why I had bought such an broken object. Told him that I considered it beautiful.

"You then may, with some more years, begin to understand,why this was made this way. Perhaps". This I believe was a compliment. Perhaps!

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 03-14-2017 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have that exact tea strainer and a single butter knife in Hamburg. Surprisingly, the Hamburg butter knife has the regular Gorham mark and not the "C" that you typically see.

I was pleased to find it. I don't typically see Hamburg with the standard Gorham marks. Has anyone else seen that?

Great thread by the way!

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 07-19-2018 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recent find:
Gorham, 1898

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June Martin
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iconnumber posted 07-19-2018 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for June Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that's a stunner belt buckle. Thanks for sharing.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-19-2018 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's like an M.C. Escher engraving!

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 07-20-2018 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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