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chase33

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iconnumber posted 08-08-2008 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chase33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone,

I am fine tuning a spreadsheet I have and was wondering if a marrow scoop would be a place piece (ie one for everyone) or is it a serving piece?

Thanks

Robert

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 08-17-2008 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think of marrow scoops as relatively rare 18th century objects, and I'd think of them as service pieces rather than place pieces. There are far fewer kinds of forms in 18th century silver than appear in the 19th c.

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Clive E Taylor

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iconnumber posted 08-17-2008 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clive E Taylor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would imagine that the joint which had the marrowbone would be , excuse the pun, used jointly by all members of the table and hence would have it's own carving knife etc and a spoon to extract the marrow - hence a serving piece .

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FWG

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iconnumber posted 08-17-2008 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From frequency seen I'd certainly incline towards calling them serving pieces. But on the other hand, roasted marrow-bones were/are fairly regularly served as a course on their own in a big formal meal, and I've always assumed that each diner would have his/her own utensil for removing the marrow from the bone. Personally I've never been at such a dinner where they were served - alas! - so I can't speak from experience there. At restaurants (where they are increasingly being offered) they are usually served with a small spoon or scoop for the individual diner.

So, it's an interesting question. Perhaps someone with a reference library of old etiquette books can find serving directions.

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 08-17-2008 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

My thinking is that the marrow scoop is a serving piece.

I have handled about a gross of older marrow scoops over the years, both American and British, and do not remember any of them being matching pairs, or sixes, or dozens, like place pieces should come in. Also, in my library of silver auction catalogues, I did not find any large matching sets of marrow scoops.

Hope this may help.

Marc

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 08-17-2008 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Michael Clayton in his book "The Collectors Dictionary of the Silver and Gold of Great Britain and North America" states that the fact that the marrow scoop which originally came in to use in the early eighteenth century was supplied as one with a dozen knives, forks and spoons implies communal use.

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chase33

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Thanks to you all for your comments. I will add it to the serving pieces section.

Robert

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