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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 02-22-2009 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[13-0693 26-1811]

Here is another Tiffany "souvenir" piece that I have not seen before. It's a little 4 1/4" dish with an acid etched scene of lower Manhattan that features (I think.) two ferry boats, some sailboats and a bunch of skyscrapers.

This piece probably dates to the 1910's.

Can anyone identify any of the buildings?

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allentownboy

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iconnumber posted 02-23-2009 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allentownboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Richard, the Tiffany dish you posted in the American Sterling Silver Forum is a really interesting piece.

I am posting a photo from about 1908 that shows virtually the same angle, and I added some captions naming the more important buildings for you. Perhaps this is the photo Tiffany used as the model for this souvenir item!

Of the buildings named, the Singer Tower & the City Investing Bldg were torn down to make room for 1 Liberty Plaza. The Coal & Iron Bldg was heavily damaged during 9/11 and is empty, and the Trinity & U.S. Realty Bldgs are still in use today.

Since the focus of the piece seems to be the Singer Tower, which was the tallest building in the world from 1908 to 1909 and a marvel in its day, I would venture a guess and say that Tiffany probably made this during that time frame.

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iconnumber posted 02-23-2009 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
allentownboy,

Thanks for your response and the photo with identification. This certainly looks to be virtually identical to the scene on the dish.

May I ask where you found the photograph?

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iconnumber posted 02-23-2009 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's good to see how many high buildings were build in those days. I think New York was for his past and still is a very modern city. Where offices were situated is interesting to see, nice job with the name information. In Rotterdam after the W.W.2 there was (and still is) a building called "the white house" a office build around 1900 and it was the highest office building in Europa those days 43 mtr, smile. From the photo it is the white building with 3? red flags,behind the building there are build a lot of modern architect towers. But I think they are rather small in comparison with the very high buildings in N.Y.

It's like a contest in Burj Dubai they are building from 2007 a tower of 818 mtr.
I wonder when the climate suddenly change it could be done by building to many high towers I hope we stay in balance.

In Holland the silver factories were situated in low buildings like the factory :van Kempen and Begeer. The factory was build in 1858 and was in production concerning Van Kempen until 1984. Why I placed this photo of the factory is the fact that sometimes I see other topics about the flatware made by this factory. Later there was corporation Van Kempen en Begeer. The photo's of the factory are made first from the front and a modern looking of the back side.

So there is a lot of difference is styles, and technical it were and be masterpieces of construction made in N.Y.,

my compliments!.

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iconnumber posted 02-23-2009 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allentownboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome Richard. The photo is in the Library of Congress and can be accessed here:
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As you can see from the original, it is a panoramic view. I cropped down the section pertaining to the image on the Tiffany piece and labeled the buildings to answer your inquiry.

Hope this helps and that Scott will relocate this thread and attach it to your original one so people can see how it all comes together.

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iconnumber posted 03-01-2009 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sgt Silver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
allentownboy, good for you for finding that photo! Thanks for posting it.

The building labeled the Coal & Iron Bldg. is now known as 90 West Street. It is one of the three buildings in Manhattan by Cass Gilbert. The other two are the US Customs House (now the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian) and the Woolworth Building.

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