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chase33

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iconnumber posted 04-13-2009 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chase33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone,

Seems to have been a bit quiet today so I'll post this plea:

My mother has received a set of this flatware and I do not know the pattern name. Based on the mark on the back it is made by Simpson Hall and Miller, which was acquired by International. And that's all I know!



Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Robert

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 04-13-2009 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It kind of looks the Simpson, Hall & Miller 1902 pattern Stratford.

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chase33

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iconnumber posted 04-15-2009 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chase33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, thats a close match but not quite it. I have a sneaky suspicion that this pattern may have to go un-identified!

Robert

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 04-15-2009 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To tell you the truth, I was thinking your pattern is so difficult to identify because this piece is in like new condition. The blossoms look like carnations and are very crisp. Another thought was a multi motif pattern. At any rate for myself, the first guess will have to stand. The pattern is exquisite. Hopefuully, in time a reasonable identification will come your way.

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 04-15-2009 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is definitely Stratford. What makes you think it isn't? In some ornate patterns the dies may vary slightly from piece to piece, so not all handles will be exactly the same, but that doesn't make it a different pattern.

BTW, how big is the fork pictured? It is not the salad fork in Stratford. It might be a pastry or fish fork, both of which are quite scarce.

Brent

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 04-16-2009 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, Stratford. In the early 1980's, just after the Hunt Bros raid, a number of Art Nouveau patterns from the IS family began showing up at antique shows. These were beautifully done, and like new. And there were some that had not been originally produced, like Frontenac strawberry forks. At least that is what I was told by people who should have known. It is a very attractive pattern.

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chase33

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iconnumber posted 04-16-2009 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chase33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mea Culpa!

After Bascall identified it as Stratford, I went to the online replacement site and looked at a few of the pictures. The pictures of the dinner fork and a few other pieces did not have the detail around the shoulders that are present on the shoulders of the two forks (6 1/8" and 8 1/2") Mom sent me. Of course I should have looked farther down (way far down! past all of the HC pieces) to find the salad fork and cold meat fork, which of course do have that detail.

Many thanks for making me go back and take another look.

Robert

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