SMP Logo
SM Publications
Silver Salon Forums - The premier site for discussing Silver.
SMP | Silver Salon Forums | SSF - Guidelines | SSF - FAQ | Silver Sales

The Silver Salon Forums
Since 1993
Over 11,793 threads & 64,769 posts !!
American Sterling Silver Forum
How to Post Photos REGISTER (click here)

customtitle open  SMP Silver Salon Forums
tlineopen  American Sterling Silver
tline3open  Whiting Fruit Bowl

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

ForumFriend SSFFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Whiting Fruit Bowl
chase33

Posts: 362
Registered: Feb 2008

iconnumber posted 10-25-2009 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chase33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello

I recently ran across a piece that was stored in the back of my cabinet and had forgotten. When I went to do some research I ran into a little problem. It is marked on the bottom Whiting Co on one side and Sterling 2869 on the other side. I can't find where Whiting used this particular mark. All of the marks I have found are the lion holding a w. This is a pretty big piece measuring 14 long by 10 wide by 4 tall. Is it a Whiting Manufacturing piece? A Frank Whiting piece? Or some other Whiting Company? And any ideas about the age?





Thanks

Robert

IP: Logged

Ulysses Dietz
Moderator

Posts: 1265
Registered: May 99

iconnumber posted 10-28-2009 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stylistically and by form, this is a typical early 20th-century serving piece. What I often think of as a bread tray, although they must have been used for other things...I am not familiar with this Whiting mark, which has the look of a late-ish kind of mark, generally speaking. Could this bowl be later than it looks--a holdover, or sort of wedding-gift-silver that carried on for years past its style's currency?

IP: Logged

Dale

Posts: 2132
Registered: Nov 2002

iconnumber posted 10-28-2009 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The grape and leaves motif carried on for a very long time. Target has a soup ladle in it in last year's online catalog. It is also found in new Judaica silver. And I do see inexpensive imported silverplate using it in stores currently. Most of what I have seen in grape and leaves has been in silverplate, indicating that this was very popular among middle class silver buyers. There is not a lot of sterling in the style. In common language, the pattern is called 'Vintage Grape' after the 1847 Rogers pattern. This continues as an enduring style today.

IP: Logged

chase33

Posts: 362
Registered: Feb 2008

iconnumber posted 10-28-2009 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chase33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info. Would Gorham have marked a piece with this mark after it had purchased Whiting? While Whiting is not my usual area of expertise, it seems like the few pieces I have seen are marked with the Gorham/Whiting mark.

Robert

IP: Logged

Dale

Posts: 2132
Registered: Nov 2002

iconnumber posted 10-28-2009 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately there is much about marking we do not understand. AFAIK, there are no records surviving that explain why and where certain marks were used. My own semi-informed guess is that the marks sometimes refer to the way the item would be sold. Some types of retailers and jobbers got oddly marked items so that the company could trace just where their silver was going. This was to enforce trade agreements and territories.

IP: Logged

All times are ET

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a


1. Public Silver Forums (open Free membership) - anyone with a valid e-mail address may register. Once you have received your Silver Salon Forum password, and then if you abide by the Silver Salon Forum Guidelines, you may start a thread or post a reply in the New Members' Forum. New Members who show a continued willingness to participate, to completely read and abide by the Guidelines will be allowed to post to the Member Public Forums.
Click here to Register for a Free password

2. Private Silver Salon Forums (invitational or $ donation membership) - The Private Silver Salon Forums require registration and special authorization to view, search, start a thread or to post a reply. Special authorization can be obtained in one of several ways: by Invitation; Annual $ Donation; or via Special Limited Membership. For more details click here (under development).

3. Administrative/Special Private Forums (special membership required) - These forums are reserved for special subjects or administrative discussion. These forums are not open to the public and require special authorization to view or post.


| Home | Order | The Guide to Evaluating Gold & Silver Objects | The Book of Silver
| Update BOS Registration | Silver Library | For Sale | Our Wants List | Silver Dealers | Speakers Bureau |
| Silversmiths | How to set a table | Shows | SMP | Silver News |
copyright © 1993 - 2020 SM Publications
All Rights Reserved.
Legal & Privacy Notices