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bibit

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iconnumber posted 07-25-2006 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello,

I need some help with hallmarks on a large silverplate/ep large trays from my family.The tray has what looks to be a lion/a crown with a cross on top/unicorn. It is also marked HSCEP. Its a very heavy tray and is hammered around the outside and then has a geometric pattern on the top rim. I have been thru the book of old silver and have not had any luck with these marks.

Also, I have a question about cleaning, so far I have only used Wrights silver cream. I have several very old pieces that are black. One piece is a little powder jar shaped item with a lid and inside the box the silver is perfect and clean. It is marked Forbes silver co. The outside I have polished on and off for a week. Its slowly becoming bright. Even though the piece is old, it looks in wonderful shape and I would like to make it really sparkle. I has a grey sort of color that is very hard to clean. I do not feel it has any plate loss because it is very shiny. Poor little jar was even shiny when it was black. In places it is coming clean. Do I keep working on it? Thank you for your help.

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bibit

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iconnumber posted 07-25-2006 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SILVERPLATE MARK
please help!


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2209patrick

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iconnumber posted 07-25-2006 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2209patrick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that's a mark used by the Hartford Sterling Company, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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bibit

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iconnumber posted 07-25-2006 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh thank you so much. It did not match any thing in my books, but with a bit of net research I found the logo to match. I appreciate your help! Do you have a book that has further information for this company? I have not found much in the line of books that work with silverplate other than flatware.
again, many many thanks!

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 07-26-2006 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When working with something that is shiny even when black, I would suspect lacquer. Try using a little nail polish remover on the piece, see if that removes the black. This has been the bane of my silver adventures. Taking off lacquer frequently reveals a lovely natural silver underneath.

Sometimes, in fact often, trays have marks that denote not a maker but a retailer. A picture would help us figure out who made the tray.

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bibit

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iconnumber posted 07-26-2006 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, I will give that a try. I know for the first few hours I was cleaning off some sort of tan colored something off the bowl. I assumed it was dirt. The piece is marked FORBES. Here are a few pictures of it, most of the work has been done on the lid. I believe it is a powder box but I am not sure. You can tell from the second photo that the inside is clean and silvery. It wants so hard to shine! Thank you again.

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bibit

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iconnumber posted 07-27-2006 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is the piece that is so hard to clean. That is not a copper showing on top but a flash from the camera. I have worked mostly on the top. Any suggestions appreciated. I tried the nail polish remover on another piece(I am not as attached to) and had some result. Thank you all!

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