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cj jones

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iconnumber posted 01-03-2007 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cj jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have a Gorham Versailles dessert spoon w/ the 20th century hallmark (I think)...it has a V beneath the Sterling/Gorham...what does this mean..cannot find any reference on Gorham website. Am going to try to attach a pix via Picture Bucket..

Any help would be appreciated. Thnx CJ

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 01-03-2007 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to the forum CJ.

To get a good response the first thing you will need to do is take a moment and click on the red link in the green box at the top of any page here where it says Please Read Before You Post, read through it carefully and then come back and add to your initial posting. Please add some information on yourself and your interest in silver in general and about your interest in learning about your spoon in particular, as well as including some nice clear photos that have been appropriately sized. Simple links to other websites where your photos can be seen rather than including the photos themselves here in your posting is not going to work. To learn how to include the photos in your posting from your photobucket album, please click on the link that says How To Post Photos which is found just above the one that says Please Read Before You Post. Many thanks.

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cj jones

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iconnumber posted 01-03-2007 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cj jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that information...I will tell you a little bit about myself and my fascination w/ sterling. My parents were collectors of sterling flatware & hollow ware, art glass and victorian furniture. I inherited many pcs such as the spoon plus . I am discribing & will try to add the photograph -- I read it but it just didnt click. I found this forum on Google and have spent the day reading articles. My most prized possession from my parents is a 12 plc (5 pc) set of Mythologique & a small personal tea set. I love to polish and since retiring -- I am always looking for a new thing to learn about. Hope this helps the forum members better understand me & my passion for the shiny stuff. Thnx CJ

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cj jones

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iconnumber posted 01-03-2007 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cj jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is the photo..I have tried to do this by the book, reduced the photo & using the brackets w/ the URL

I appreciate your letting me know how I can do it right.....this was done on my scanner...many thnx cj

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cj jones

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iconnumber posted 01-03-2007 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cj jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope someone can tell me what the V under the hallmarks, etc is...cj

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cj jones

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iconnumber posted 01-03-2007 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cj jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scott..thank you for amplfying the hallmarks..is there a simple way to do that prior to posting? I have MicroSoft Digital Image Suite and an older digital camera that is not very good on Macros...so if you have tips, please share them. Do you have any other info on that "V"? And/or the approximate date of this spoon...thnx cj

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cj jones

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iconnumber posted 01-03-2007 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cj jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know a way to contact Gorham - I tried it on Google but didnt find anything other than the aging chart. Please let me know thnx cj

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 01-03-2007 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See Gorham Manufacturing Company for a review of the ownership of this company.

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cj jones

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iconnumber posted 01-04-2007 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cj jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thnx for that link cj

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bascall

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Could the "V" just be an indication of weight? Here is an e-mail address for an individual at the John Hay Library in Providence, RI that may be of some use:
Samuel J. Hough, contact email: owlbridge@ cox.net. I haven't tried this individual myself, so good luck. Sorry, I don't really have an answer to your question.

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cj jones

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Thnx for the tip..I emailed him yesterday but thus far havent rcvd a reply..his site is excellent in reference to Gorham and many other things..cj

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 01-04-2007 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the information and the photo. I am not sure I know what the V is but another possibility to what has already been suggested might be a retailer's marking. Some retail stores would add their markings to things they sold. Or another possibility is it may have been added by the owner as an owner's marking. By owner I mean not just an individual but possibly a fine restaurant, or an institution, or a company of some kind.

My thinking of one of these possibilities rather than it being a Gorham mark is in part based on the way the V is struck - it appears to have been added by a very different hand than the rest of the standard Gorham markings.

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cj jones

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iconnumber posted 01-04-2007 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cj jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kimo, I am leaning that way also. At first I thought it was an A but that wasnt even close since Verseilles wasnt struck until 1888...everyone thanks for your help. I will be back when I have some other questions. I copied all the photo stuff down & will try to do it right the next time..thnx every one..I consider this item closed...this is an excellent tool and the responses were greatly appreciated.

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Dale

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We may also be looking at a Roman numberal, 5 or V. Which may have been added to show a sequence of use to maintain even wear. Or to indicate where to place the spoon in a place setting.

Or, it could mean Versailles. No idea of why anyone would mark it that way.

Lots of possibilities here.

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cj jones

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I probably won't ever know but I thank all of you who made suggestions, gave me information..the thing that really matters actually as I found a great place to learn - not only about my things but there is so much knowledge on this board. I am a novice but all of you treated me like a valued member.

I don't know if you close a thread but again thank you all for your input.

CJ

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