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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 11-17-2010 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The above cups are fairly late I think, most likely the 1960’s, but I was attracted to the beautiful flowers surrounding the cup. They are small, 2 ½” tall”, and were never monogrammed.

I think they are toasting cups that probably were never presented. Hopefully they will go to one of our grandchildren when they get married.

Atlanta was a good antique market this last weekend even with the all of the silver being sold for the melt. I was surprised at the number of dealers that were selling things for scrap - at prices above what they were asking for the items.

I should have put this in the Sterling section and by habit entered in the Coin section. If possible could it be moved?

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 11-18-2010 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice pieces. The 925 mark indicates that they were made in the 1990s or later.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 11-18-2010 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Richard for that information. It is nice to know that Tiffany is still selling beautiful things. I must admit that I rarely go to stores that sell new items.

My wife likes to go to these stores to see new designs and what is being copied from the past - but then she is a real shopper.

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iconnumber posted 11-21-2010 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fascinating--these are looking at the things made for Tiffany & Co. in the 1840s and 1850s by various exclusive makers--very much of their mid-Victorian mode. If these were really made by them, and the marks suggest otherwise, they would have come from the chasing shop in Parsippany, NJ (1990s) or possibly from Ubaldo Vitali's shop in Newark or Maplewood, NJ in the 1970s or 80s.

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iconnumber posted 11-22-2010 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Ulysses that the marks are suspicious, but if these pieces were actually made by Tiffany then the use of the 925 mark indicates 1990s or later.

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iconnumber posted 11-22-2010 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only meant to suggest that Tiffany bought these for retail--as they have done for a lot of their silver in the last few decades. The designs do relate to their 1850s things, so they might have commissioned a small shop to hand-make some of these things for retail. That would make sense for the 1990s...

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iconnumber posted 12-15-2010 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


I found this cup in Atlanta this month and it has the mark for the Elder and Company from Edinburgh with the date mark for 1832-3. I put it in this same post with the Tiffany cups as they seem to be a modern interpretation of this earlier design. The repoussé work is extremely fine on this cup and the matting is something I rarely see on American silver of this time period.

Thanks Ulysses for the reference to the Victorian period. The Scottish cup was made before this time period, but perhaps I am seeing a relationship that is not really there.

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